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scorpioajr wrote:
I have only been here at .org for a couple weeks. I have noticed that when i search abuot LEO encounters, they are spread few and far between. Enough to get a little anxious. I mean, what if that what they want? A bunch of anxious OCing ppl that end up saying the wrong thing or reacting the wrong way while harrassed..err,umm...i meant: questioned.
Allz Im sayin is: Its only gonna take a handfull more negative encounters till OCing is up for discussion at city hall or whatever.
...im done.
I've had several positive encounters. As others have said, being ignored by police when I am not breaking any laws and otherwise have no immediate need for their services is positive.
I've also had a couple of fairly positive experiences involving actual communications with the police. Both have been posted here, but not necessarily under the heading of LEO encounters. Do a search.
I had very low key and positive encounter with a UHP trooper on the Lt. Gov's protective detail this year at the capital. He engaged in some small talk as the very non-intrusive way to screen me quickly for any concerns related to safety. We were about 30 seconds into a conversation before I realized his real motive and by then he had figured out I was not a threat and was excusing himself to other duties. Never asked for ID, not even an official encounter by any reasonable use of that term.
Last year at the Sandy City Independence Day celebration I had a fairly positive experience with Sandy PD as they questioned my legal ability to OC a loaded gun pursuant to a permit. Again, I was never disarmed or even officially detained. The duty sergeant and Lt. and I had a nice conversation as we looked over the code book.
Indeed, it has been YEARS since I had a negative experience with peace officers while OCing and that wasn't even in Utah.
We do need to properly comport ourselves and there is some line between exercising our rights and actually creating such a stir that laws get changed against us. But at the end of the day, if we don't or can't OC for fear of OC becoming illegal, well, we've already lost the ability to OC.
Charles