NervisRek
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The Coffee Beanery in Berkley, on Woodward, welcomes open carry. Per part owner Greg.
The Coffee Beanery in Berkley, on Woodward, welcomes open carry. Per part owner Greg.
Just to clarify which coffee store. The Coffee Beanery is on the West side of Woodward, South of 12 Mile. There's a "Beaner" which is now called "Bigsby" on the East side of Woodward a lttle farther North.
I'm in,was planning to go anyway. (just because they support o.c.) I am liking the o.c. more and more) Plan on talking to some of the local bussiness to see how they will respond. Guys at work still tell me crazy to do it. Mom always said it never did any good to tell me I couldn't do something.(spend many a day grounded or sore a**ed)
I never saw it as respectful or polite to ask to carry a gun into someones establishment. I consider carrying a gun a personal choice. To me it is like asking if I can wear purple underwear into the same place. It's not like I'm not respect thier wishes, it's just that I don't see any benifit from making an issue out of it. I don't see not asking as disrespectful or impolite. However respecting thier wishes if they ask you to leave.
My opinion is that they don't have any right to tell you to not wear the gun. The right they do have is telling me to leave, not cover up or disarm. Their house, their rules; my body, my rules.
Sorry, but I just find it kind of strange to walk up to a proprietor and ask, "Excuse me but, do you mind if I carry my gun in here?" (mind you, I am talking about me personaly. People must do what they feel comfortable with). That would be myself making an issue out of it. I would much rather treat it as a non-issue, and if someone else decides to make an issue of it then, well ... that's their decision. However, I'm not going to fall into the game of making it out to be more than it is. By that logic, CCW's, as well as LEO would also be asking permission. Act like you belong there.
I too have to agree with Venator and ghostrider on this issue. However, in a case where you may know the owner/manager of the business, I would agree with Jerry and most likely ask. Other than that, I don't see the point. It's just asking them to post signage.ghostrider wrote:
I never saw it as respectful or polite to ask to carry a gun into someones establishment. I consider carrying a gun a personal choice. To me it is like asking if I can wear purple underwear into the same place. It's not like I'm not respect thier wishes, it's just that I don't see any benifit from making an issue out of it. I don't see not asking as disrespectful or impolite. However respecting thier wishes if they ask you to leave.
My opinion is that they don't have any right to tell you to not wear the gun. The right they do have is telling me to leave, not cover up or disarm. Their house, their rules; my body, my rules.
Sorry, but I just find it kind of strange to walk up to a proprietor and ask, "Excuse me but, do you mind if I carry my gun in here?" (mind you, I am talking about me personaly. People must do what they feel comfortable with). That would be myself making an issue out of it. I would much rather treat it as a non-issue, and if someone else decides to make an issue of it then, well ... that's their decision. However, I'm not going to fall into the game of making it out to be more than it is. By that logic, CCW's, as well as LEO would also be asking permission. Act like you belong there.
Underwear should be CCed, maybe purple pants? :lol:
I agree with you're entire post. Asking seems like it is more likely to cause more problems and should be unnecessary.
I concur. If you know the owner/manager, then you will know the correct course of action as to whether or not to ask. It would much depend upon the relation you have with that person.I too have to agree with Venator and ghostrider on this issue. However, in a case where you may know the owner/manager of the business, I would agree with Jerry and most likely ask. Other than that, I don't see the point. It's just asking them to post signage.
I can see where this may work. If, for example, you did not know the owner/manager on a personal basis, butas a frequent patron of the business (coffee shop, gas station, etc.) you may haveestablished some trust from the individuals.If you are someone like warchild, who likes to go up and talk to people and be courteous, I think asking permission can very much be a good thing. You can figure out a perfect way to ask, similar to the technique of hobo's who are really good with psychology, and not only educate the store owner or clerk or manager, who would have maybe not even really noticed or thought you were a plain clothes cop, but you might even recruit a new OCer!!!:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate
Granted, that sort of thing isn't for everyone, and I don't feel like doing that either, but if that is the attitude someone wants to take, I see nothing wrong with it.
I completely agree with you. I think it's good that there are those who can do it in a positive manner with good results. My only point is that I don't consider asking permission a matter of respect or courteous. After all, Rosa Parks wasn't demonstrating disrespectful behavior when she sat at the front of the bus, nor was she being impolite. It also would not have been respectful for her to ask permission to do so. She had every right to be there, and so do we as gun owners. The difference lies in that a private business/property owner has the right to ask us to leave, and it is respectful and courteous to do so without making a scene.If you are someone like warchild, who likes to go up and talk to people and be courteous, I think asking permission can very much be a good thing. You can figure out a perfect way to ask, similar to the technique of hobo's who are really good with psychology, and not only educate the store owner or clerk or manager, who would have maybe not even really noticed or thought you were a plain clothes cop, but you might even recruit a new OCer!!!:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate
Granted, that sort of thing isn't for everyone, and I don't feel like doing that either, but if that is the attitude someone wants to take, I see nothing wrong with it.