ghoststan
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im watching channel abc nightline is on and they have a open carry story check it out
im watching channel abc nightline is on and they have a open carry story check it out
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night line open carry tonight
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Rattlerjake
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Hey just watched the nightline story. Only real problem I saw was one of the holstered weapons they showed had the hammer in the cocked position, not very bright. Great way to cause injury when unholstering as it is not likely on safe, since most handguns I know of the hammer will not stay cocked in the safe position. Jake
Hey just watched the nightline story. Only real problem I saw was one of the holstered weapons they showed had the hammer in the cocked position, not very bright. Great way to cause injury when unholstering as it is not likely on safe, since most handguns I know of the hammer will not stay cocked in the safe position. Jake
longwatch
Founder's Club Member - Moderator
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1911s are designed to be carried cocked and locked, FYI.
1911s are designed to be carried cocked and locked, FYI.
.40 Cal
State Researcher
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I take it you don't know much about John Moses Browning's US M1911? Locked and cocked is the only way to carry!:celebrate
I take it you don't know much about John Moses Browning's US M1911? Locked and cocked is the only way to carry!:celebrate
DoubleR
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Here are a couple of links to the video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIEzkXN1SYY
For those of you who can't watch it on youtube this is a quicktime file you can download:
http://luxin.org/myvideos/Nightline-Opencarry_6-25-2008.mov
Courtesy of Longwatch and luxin.
Here are a couple of links to the video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIEzkXN1SYY
For those of you who can't watch it on youtube this is a quicktime file you can download:
http://luxin.org/myvideos/Nightline-Opencarry_6-25-2008.mov
Courtesy of Longwatch and luxin.
Rattlerjake
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Well, actually I do have considerable experience with the colt 1911A1 (govt. mod), colt commanderand variants of the 1911 by other manufacurers, I carried one for several years of military service in the 70-80's and performed repairs. The last statement I made was not what I was trying to say (sorry)., My point was that although this weapon has both a thumb safety and grip safety and can be carried cocked and lockedfor combat purposes, range quickfire, etc., commonsense should prevail and the individual would have no reason to carry this weapon holstered in the cocked and locked position at a picknick or non-threatening situation. Now speaking militarily we always carried this weapon in the non-cocked position except when in a "combat" situation (i.e. on patrol, Close-quarters Battle). Be aware that in a well used 1911, if the sear's safety shoulder is wornthe thumb safety stop stud may not be able to prevent the sear release, leading to a possible AD, and you won't know this unless you do regular function checks. I wasn't critisizing the individual only expressing an observation. Jake
Well, actually I do have considerable experience with the colt 1911A1 (govt. mod), colt commanderand variants of the 1911 by other manufacurers, I carried one for several years of military service in the 70-80's and performed repairs. The last statement I made was not what I was trying to say (sorry)., My point was that although this weapon has both a thumb safety and grip safety and can be carried cocked and lockedfor combat purposes, range quickfire, etc., commonsense should prevail and the individual would have no reason to carry this weapon holstered in the cocked and locked position at a picknick or non-threatening situation. Now speaking militarily we always carried this weapon in the non-cocked position except when in a "combat" situation (i.e. on patrol, Close-quarters Battle). Be aware that in a well used 1911, if the sear's safety shoulder is wornthe thumb safety stop stud may not be able to prevent the sear release, leading to a possible AD, and you won't know this unless you do regular function checks. I wasn't critisizing the individual only expressing an observation. Jake
longwatch
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Rattlerjake, with respect I think your position is in the minority of those who carry 1911s. I think if you choose to research the issue you will find that most authorities on that pistol would recommend carrying the 1911 with a loaded chamber, hammer cocked and the safety engaged. Start with the late Col. Jeff Cooper.
Your objection to carrying the pistol in that manner as being unneccesary at a picnic, is incorrect. Let me put it this way, we don't wear seatbelts because we expect to get in a wreck, we wear them because we might get in a wreck. One cannot resonably expect to be able to engage the belt just before a collision. The prudent thing is to wear a seatbelt whenever one is driving.
Similarly, we carry handguns for self defense, we don't expect to get in a gunfight but it could happen at an unpredictable time ( most criminals don't make appointments). So a prudent carrier, should have his weapons ready and available for immediate use.
Rattlerjake, with respect I think your position is in the minority of those who carry 1911s. I think if you choose to research the issue you will find that most authorities on that pistol would recommend carrying the 1911 with a loaded chamber, hammer cocked and the safety engaged. Start with the late Col. Jeff Cooper.
Your objection to carrying the pistol in that manner as being unneccesary at a picnic, is incorrect. Let me put it this way, we don't wear seatbelts because we expect to get in a wreck, we wear them because we might get in a wreck. One cannot resonably expect to be able to engage the belt just before a collision. The prudent thing is to wear a seatbelt whenever one is driving.
Similarly, we carry handguns for self defense, we don't expect to get in a gunfight but it could happen at an unpredictable time ( most criminals don't make appointments). So a prudent carrier, should have his weapons ready and available for immediate use.