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    From Bill MearsCNN Supreme Court Producer

    WASHINGTON (CNN)[/b] -- The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Washington D.C.'s sweeping ban on handguns is unconstitutional.





    A gun ownership supporter holds a placard in March outside the Supreme Court in Washington.


    The justices voted 5-4 against the ban with Justice Antonin Scalia writing the opinion for the majority.

    At issue in District of Columbia v. Heller was whether the city's ban violated the Second Amendment right to "keep and bear arms" by preventing individuals -- as opposed to state militias -- from having guns in their homes.

    District of Columbia officials argued they had the responsibility to impose "reasonable" weapons restrictions to reduce violent crime, but several Washingtonians challenged the 32-year-old law. Some said they had been constant victims of crimes and needed guns for protection.

    In March, two women went before the justices with starkly different opinions on the handgun ban.

    Shelly Parker told the court she is a single woman who has been threatened by drug dealers in her Washington neighborhood.


    "In the event that someone does get in my home, I would have no defense, except maybe throw my paper towels at them," she said, explaining she told police she had an alarm, bars on her windows and a dog.

    "What more am I supposed to do?" Parker recalled asking authorities. "The police turned to me and said, 'Get a gun.' " See how proponents, opponents argued ยป

    Elilta "Lily" Habtu, however, told the high court that she supports the handgun ban, and tighter gun control in general. Habtu was in a Virginia Tech classroom in April 2007 when fellow student Seung-Hui Cho burst in and began shooting. She survived bullets to the head and arm.

    "There has to be tighter gun control; we can't let another Virginia Tech to happen," she told the court. "And we're just not doing it; we're sitting around; we're doing nothing. We let the opportunity arise for more massacres."

    In March 2007, a federal appeals court overturned the ban, which keeps most private citizens from owning handguns and keeping them in their homes.

    It was the first time a federal appeals court ruled a gun law unconstitutional on Second Amendment grounds.

    City attorneys urged the high court to intervene, warning, "The District of Columbia -- a densely populated urban locality where the violence caused by handguns is well-documented -- will be unable to enforce a law that its elected officials have sensibly concluded saves lives."

    There were 143 gun-related murders in Washington last year, compared with 135 in 1976, when the handgun ban was enacted.

    The Second Amendment says, "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    The wording repeatedly has raised the question of whether gun ownership is an individual right, or a collective one pertaining to state militias and therefore subject to regulation.

    The Supreme Court has avoided the question since the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791. The high court last examined the issue in 1939 but stayed away from the broad constitutional question.

    Only Chicago, Illinois, has a handgun ban as sweeping as Washington's, though Maryland, Massachusetts and San Francisco, California, joined the Windy City in issuing briefs supporting the district's ban.

    The National Rifle Association, Disabled Veterans for Self-Defense and the transgender group Pink Pistols -- along with 31 states -- filed briefs supporting the District of Columbia's gun owners.

    In February, a majority of U.S. congressmen -- 55 senators and 250 representatives -- filed a brief urging the Supreme Court to strike down Washington's ordinance.


    "Our founders didn't intend for the laws to be applied to some folks and not to others," Sen. Jon Tester, D-Montana, said at the time.

    Washington's ban applies only to handguns. The city allows possession of rifles and shotguns, although it requires that they be kept in the home, unloaded and fitted with locks or dissembled.
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    Garza wrote:


    Elilta "Lily" Habtu, however, told the high court that she supports the handgun ban, and tighter gun control in general. Habtu was in a Virginia Tech classroom in April 2007 when fellow student Seung-Hui Cho burst in and began shooting. She survived bullets to the head and arm.

    "There has to be tighter gun control; we can't let another Virginia Tech to happen," she told the court. "And we're just not doing it; we're sitting around; we're doing nothing. We let the opportunity arise for more massacres."
    THEN GO THE ****

    BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY !!!!!!!!!!!

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    Guess I should intro myself,

    The name is Garza and I am currently in VA. My best friend is my PT92and 2 17 round mags. No matter what I do he always follows me. Like a tag-a-long.lol Currently looking to get a Glock 19 (for the Glock lovers) ora brick for all others. I have been lurking on the forum since whatever date it says there on the side and have enjoyed reading everyones stories. Everyone keep up the good work and and know you have another soldier in the fight for our2A rights.

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    Garza wrote:


    The Second Amendment says, "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    The wording repeatedly has raised the question of whether gun ownership is an individual right, or a collective one pertaining to state militias and therefore subject to regulation.

    So in the 1A, "the right of the people peaceably to assemble", the 4A, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated",and the 10A, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people", do you think President Madison intended for the word "people" to be synonymous with militia?:what:

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    What's not a surprise is the "blood in the streets"(again) crap that's being bleated about this.

    "District of Columbia Mayor Adrian Fenty responded with a plan to require residents of the nation's capital to register their handguns. "More handguns in the District of Columbia will only lead to more handgun violence," Fenty said."

    Likeviolent crime in DCcould possibly get worse? Hell, that fool either dos'nt know what's going on in his city or, most likely, chooses not to know. Oh yeah, gun registration is illegal mayor Fenty.

    "Chicago mayor Richard Daley said he didn't know how the high court ruling would affect the city, but said that the ruling was "a very frightening decision." He predicted an end to Chicago's handgun ban would spark new violence and force the city to raise taxes to pay for new police."

    Frightening? In that more criminals and fewer good citizens would get shot? As Dirty Harry Callahan put it in Magnum Force; "There's nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot." And "new violence"? I guess mayor Daley prefers the old violence that they now have.

    "Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., a leading gun control advocate in Congress, criticized the ruling. "I believe the people of this great country will be less safe because of it," she said."

    You're half right Laverne. "I believe the criminals of this great country will be less safe because of it."

    Every one of those culls is gonna get proven wrong, as always.
    "You can teach 'em, but you cant learn 'em."

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