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When I first found this site, I was by no means a supporter of OC. In reading arguments from both viewpoints, I am swaying toward OC. FIRST. I REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT A WAR! Pro CC or Pro OC; above all we are fervent 2nd Amend. supporters. The only discussion is on the MODE of carry!
I initaly didn't really care, it didn't impact me. In AZ I can OC, and I spent 30+ years CC as a sworn Special Agent. Under that label, I could go armed (CC) almost anywhere I wanted, including some foreign countries. Then my worse (really 2nd worst) nightmare became real. I became disabled "off the job".
Making this as short as possible, on bad side, I have a life ending disease. The good news, is that I have two or three years to go. My income fell from 6 figures, to $1,000 p/mo. With the costs of co-pays, drugs, etc., my wife and I were forced to file Bankruptcy. At that time I owned 24 handguns, excluding shotguns, and rifles. The court ordered them seized and sold to meet some of the demand of my creditors. Since then things have only gotten worse. Economics dictates many thinga. including 'where you can afford to live'. Result: Small 1bdr apt.barred windows and doors, gunfire every night, someone killed every night. (read any PHX News site) I live in an area known as the "corridor". It is seven miles long, and about 3 miles miles wide. It is like living in hell. There is something wrong, when I count military time (in a war) and my career I spent a couple of years short of 40 yrs in service to my community and country. It shouldn't end like this.
We are now indigent, we must decide daily if we get food or my meds. We eat once a day. It is so bleak, that my only means of defending myself and my wife against Home Invasions, robbery, etc., Is my "LOUISVILLE SLUGGER" GOTTA ADMITI WAS BETTER WITH IT WHEN YOUNG, THANI AM AT 60! We have searched for a good used gun, but we always come up $ short. Even .25, .22, .380 are out of reach. I this sewer, I would be totally uncomfortable with any caliber less than .357, and a 5 round CAP.
I go on with my bat, but given a magic lamp, I'd ask for a 608 with a 61/2 BBL, which would be worn OPENLY, DAILY! Choice 2 would be a physically large 40/45 SEMI AUTO......................CARRIED THE SAME WAY! (but only saved 300)
I guess that there are circumstances where the argument isn't CC vs OC; it iswooden vs alum.
OC of a bat is legal, CC raises questions!
When I first found this site, I was by no means a supporter of OC. In reading arguments from both viewpoints, I am swaying toward OC. FIRST. I REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT A WAR! Pro CC or Pro OC; above all we are fervent 2nd Amend. supporters. The only discussion is on the MODE of carry!
I initaly didn't really care, it didn't impact me. In AZ I can OC, and I spent 30+ years CC as a sworn Special Agent. Under that label, I could go armed (CC) almost anywhere I wanted, including some foreign countries. Then my worse (really 2nd worst) nightmare became real. I became disabled "off the job".
Making this as short as possible, on bad side, I have a life ending disease. The good news, is that I have two or three years to go. My income fell from 6 figures, to $1,000 p/mo. With the costs of co-pays, drugs, etc., my wife and I were forced to file Bankruptcy. At that time I owned 24 handguns, excluding shotguns, and rifles. The court ordered them seized and sold to meet some of the demand of my creditors. Since then things have only gotten worse. Economics dictates many thinga. including 'where you can afford to live'. Result: Small 1bdr apt.barred windows and doors, gunfire every night, someone killed every night. (read any PHX News site) I live in an area known as the "corridor". It is seven miles long, and about 3 miles miles wide. It is like living in hell. There is something wrong, when I count military time (in a war) and my career I spent a couple of years short of 40 yrs in service to my community and country. It shouldn't end like this.
We are now indigent, we must decide daily if we get food or my meds. We eat once a day. It is so bleak, that my only means of defending myself and my wife against Home Invasions, robbery, etc., Is my "LOUISVILLE SLUGGER" GOTTA ADMITI WAS BETTER WITH IT WHEN YOUNG, THANI AM AT 60! We have searched for a good used gun, but we always come up $ short. Even .25, .22, .380 are out of reach. I this sewer, I would be totally uncomfortable with any caliber less than .357, and a 5 round CAP.
I go on with my bat, but given a magic lamp, I'd ask for a 608 with a 61/2 BBL, which would be worn OPENLY, DAILY! Choice 2 would be a physically large 40/45 SEMI AUTO......................CARRIED THE SAME WAY! (but only saved 300)
I guess that there are circumstances where the argument isn't CC vs OC; it iswooden vs alum.
OC of a bat is legal, CC raises questions!