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    Where can a DC resident even buy a handgun legally?

    I may have found an FFL gun dealer in DC but you will never guess who it is:

    Please swallow any liquids and remove all foreign objects from your mouth before proceeding.


    The quintessence of hypocrisy?
    Posted by David Hardy · 11 February 2008 11:26 AM
    http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/20...uintessenc.php

    Josh Sugarmann, head of Violence Policy Center, has a Federal Firearm Dealer's license. The business address is VPC's headquarters in D.C.. Which, if I recollect DC law correctly, means VPC is exempt from the handgun ban they defend."
    If this doesn't cause you to laugh, then have someone check you for a pulse.


    PS: There may be others but this is the ONLY ONE listed on http://www.gunbroker.com/User/FFLByState.asp for DC.

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    That was my question, too, HerbM.

    My question is this, From where is a DC resident going to purchase a hadgun -revolver or pistol? First there's no gun shop in DC. Second there is only one FFL in DC and that one is owned by Josh Sugarmann, head of Violence Policy Center.


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    And he renewed it this year:

    License Number: 1-54-XXX-XX-XX-00725

    Expiration Date: 03/01/2011

    License Name:SUGARMANN, JOSHUA ALAN

    Trade Name:


    Premise Address:
    1730 RHODE ISLAND AVE NW #1014
    WASHINGTON
    DC - 20036

    Mailing Address:
    1730 RHODE ISLAND AVE NW #1014
    WASHINGTON
    DC - 20036
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    Apparently, there are more FFLs in DC. See here
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    rlh2005 wrote:
    Apparently, there are more FFLs in DC. See here
    FFLs but apparently they don't (all?) sell firearms or do transfers...

    Supposedly there are a total (?) of six FFL who MIGHT handle a firearm transfer to a DC resident (none are required to do so of course):

    Arena Stage (Strongly suspect this is a stage theatre company that uses firearms in plays)
    Sixth St & Maine Ave Sw
    Washington, DC 20024
    Phone# 202-554-9066

    Cs Exchange Ltd (nothing on these folks is on the web)
    1219 Good Hope Rd Se 2nd Floor
    Washington, DC 20020
    Phone# 301-577-1667

    Firearms And Explosives Services Division (This is the BATFE themselves apparently)
    99 New York Avenue, Ne, Room 6s144
    Washington, DC 20226
    Phone# 202-648-7166

    K S Supply Co (nothing on these folks is on the web)
    2800 Woodley Rd Nw #317
    Washington, DC 20008

    Shakespeare Theatre Inc (Strongly suspect this is a stage theatre company that uses firearms in plays)
    450 7th St Nw
    Washington, DC 20004
    Phone# 202-547-3230

    Sugarmann, Joshua Alan (VPC -- Violence Policy Center [gun control] see message with graphic above)
    1730 Rhode Island Ave Nw #1014
    Washington, DC 20036
    Phone# 202-822-8200

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    why is this in VA?
    Carry On.

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    I guess we need a new DC section? :celebrate

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    Carry On.

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    HerbM wrote:
    SNIP If this doesn't cause you to laugh, then have someone check you for a pulse.
    I'm not laughing, yet. (That's not a criticism of your laughing.)

    I'm just trying to figure out his angle. What is hedoing with it? Why does he have it?

    I wonder ifhe is an arms dealer. Therehave beenplenty ofpeople who hid their real game behind a contrary label. I'm not saying he is; I have no informationthat suggests even a hint. I'm speculating as to why a VPC member would have an FFL.

    Also, it occurs to me that the market is rather restricted. Demand is going to go up, but supply will be limited. So prices will be high. He would be in a position to make money on this.

    It would be interesting to find out when he first got his license--before Heller or after.
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    ed wrote:
    why is this in VA?
    let's see:

    1.) DC borders VA

    2.) DC constantly blames VA gun laws for its criminal element having guns.

    3.) A large portion of DC's workforce lives in NOVA.

    4.) Maybe there is an enterprising FFL located in VA that would want to rent a cheap storefront in DC and rack up the sales for the first few months.

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    HerbM wrote:
    Where can a DC resident even buy a handgun legally?

    I may have found an FFL gun dealer in DC but you will never guess who it is:

    Please swallow any liquids and remove all foreign objects from your mouth before proceeding.


    The quintessence of hypocrisy?
    Posted by David Hardy · 11 February 2008 11:26 AM
    http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/20...uintessenc.php

    Josh Sugarmann, head of Violence Policy Center, has a Federal Firearm Dealer's license. The business address is VPC's headquarters in D.C.. Which, if I recollect DC law correctly, means VPC is exempt from the handgun ban they defend."
    If this doesn't cause you to laugh, then have someone check you for a pulse.


    PS: There may be others but this is the ONLY ONE listed on http://www.gunbroker.com/User/FFLByState.asp for DC.
    I don't know if this makes him a hypocrite, but I do think that this makes him a felon. Does he really devote time and energy for profit as required on the FFL I application??



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    At least the good people of DC won't have to go to dangerous & dirty backalley weapon dealers to acquire the means of their self defense! :celebrate:celebrate



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    Everyone start calling and emailing him asking how much he charges for a transfer!

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    Maybe I'm in the dark, but who is Joshua Sugarmann?
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    ProShooter wrote:
    Maybe I'm in the dark, but who is Joshua Sugarmann?
    The Executive Director of the Violence Policy Center

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    I wrote in and asked how to apply for a CHP.. They just responded:


    In a message dated 6/27/2008 3:21:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, customerservice.mpd2@dc.gov writes:






    Good afternoon. Thank you for your recent correspondence to the Metropolitan Police Department. The District of Columbia does not permit concealed handguns. Information about firearms regulations can be found on the MPD website: www.mpdc.dc.gov.

    Sincerely,

    Customer Service Unit
    Metropolitan Police Department

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    67GT390FB wrote:
    ed wrote:
    why is this in VA?
    let's see:

    1.) DC borders VA

    2.) DC constantly blames VA gun laws for its criminal element having guns.

    3.) A large portion of DC's workforce lives in NOVA.

    4.) Maybe there is an enterprising FFL located in VA that would want to rent a cheap storefront in DC and rack up the sales for the first few months.
    I wonder how passive-aggresive DC will be in issuing such a business license.

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    Glock27Bill wrote:
    I wonder how passive-aggresive DC will be in issuing such a business license.
    You shouldn't have to wonder. They are going to drag their heels every way possible. They will pass all sorts of obnoxious zoning laws to make it impossible for an FFL to open up shop. My guess is that if one is actually opened up it will be a very small operation and maybe even a transfer only type operation. Of course this will probably lead to further lawsuits against the District.

    Another option would be for Congress to pass a law allowing residents of DC to purchase handguns in VA or MD.

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    I thought from a thread earlier this year that Sugarmann's FFL was revoked. The thread brought up the fact he had an FFL and people called BATF to complain he was not actively engaged in selling firearms since his organization was against firearms ownership, so BATF pulled his FFL.
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    67GT390FB wrote:
    a cheap storefront in DC
    There's no such thing.

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    ed wrote:
    why is this in VA?
    Agreed... This is interesting but really should be in DC or GEN Discussion

    From what I have read..... This board is turning out to be no different thanthe old Packing.org

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    Or soloban wrote:
    Glock27Bill wrote:
    I wonder how passive-aggresive DC will be in issuing such a business license.
    You shouldn't have to wonder. They are going to drag their heels every way possible. They will pass all sorts of obnoxious zoning laws to make it impossible for an FFL to open up shop. My guess is that if one is actually opened up it will be a very small operation and maybe even a transfer only type operation. Of course this will probably lead to further lawsuits against the District.

    Another option would be for Congress to pass a law allowing residents of DC to purchase handguns in VA or MD.
    And/or just drop the now obviously unconstitutional restriction on a citizen buying a handgun out of his/her home state.

    A right to own a gun, including a handgun cannot be lost (legitimately) by crossing a state line. Especially due to Federal law.



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    HerbM wrote:
    And/or just drop the now obviously unconstitutional restriction on a citizen buying a handgun out of his/her home state.

    A right to own a gun, including a handgun cannot be lost (legitimately) by crossing a state line. Especially due to Federal law.
    That would be an interesting court challenge in light of the USSC decision.



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    LEO 229 wrote:
    ed wrote:
    why is this in VA?
    Agreed... This is interesting but really should be in DC or GEN Discussion

    From what I have read..... This board is turning out to be no different thanthe old Packing.org
    um this sounds more like sour grapes than anything from packing.org.

    now that you are no longer in a position of authority, of course the website is going down the tubes. (sarcasm)

    denigrating VCDL and its president wasn't enough of a bad move for you. Now that OCDO managment has removed you and the other member moderators lets denigrate OCDO by comparing it to a failed site.

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    67, quit trying to start fights on the internet.

    No one's impressed.
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