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    Morning all,

    I'm new, just registered today. I have been lurking your boards for about a month, and have decided to join. I'm ex-mil, 7 years in submarine duty, and am living in Middle Tennessee. I fully intend to open carry at least part of the time, and so have been reading things here with interest. I am an RKBA fanatic, and my wife is becoming one even though she grew up in Mass.

    My wife and I are getting set to take our permit class in July, and I was wondering if anyone here had gone through any of the local classes or was familiar with the ranges. We have shot at On Target in Murfreesboro, and have been in Gun City in Nashville, but have not shot there. Any information you have would be greatly appreciated.

    I own (and intend to carry) a Ruger P94 in .40, and my wife owns a Charter Arms hammerless .38 snub. (I know, Charter produced some crap weapons in the late90's to early 00's, but with the new ownership the weapons are fairly well made, and my wife loves the fit. we have about 500 rounds through the .38 with no issues)Any recommendations on holsters? I have an Uncle Mikes belt holster, as well as a shoulder rig for the .40, and my wife has an Uncle Mikes for her .38



    Thanks in advance, and it's good to be here!

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    well, apparently spell check ( or thinner fingers) should be my friend!

    Header should read 'HWP class', but I can't edit it. heh



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    Hey Pol,

    I've never been to either placeyou mentioned let alone shot there, but I have heard good things about On Target....but have not heard anything bad about Gun City as far as that goes.

    I've had all kind of family in the Navy, Dad retired MMC on destroyer(WWII and Korea) Uncle was a diver (Vietnam) and my brother was a corpsman and was down at Gitmo for awhile during the Haitian deal.

    Oh...and actually...it should be "HCP" Handgun Carry Permit
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    heheh, thanks fallguy... one of those days....

    I come from a mil family. Both parents AF, brother and I Navy, brother and sister Army, sister Marine Corps. Grew up shooting as we lived in rural PA.



    There are apparently 6 places to go here in Middle TN, with varying prices and driving distance. The only one I'm not really sure of is a company called Safety South. They look to be a traveling show, and I guess they use whatever local range they can contract with. http://www.safetysouth.net/courses.htmI just have no ideawhat range they would be using here in Smyrna. I appreciate the response.



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    Pol Mordreth wrote:
    heheh, thanks fallguy... one of those days....

    I come from a mil family. Both parents AF, brother and I Navy, brother and sister Army, sister Marine Corps. Grew up shooting as we lived in rural PA.



    There are apparently 6 places to go here in Middle TN, with varying prices and driving distance. The only one I'm not really sure of is a company called Safety South. They look to be a traveling show, and I guess they use whatever local range they can contract with. http://www.safetysouth.net/courses.htmI just have no ideawhat range they would be using here in Smyrna. I appreciate the response.



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    I have taken courses in which the range portion of the courses were held in Smyrna. They took place at the Tennessee National Guard Base at the Smyrna Airport. Perhaps that course provider is also using the base ?

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    That makes sense. I hadn't thought of the base.

    Do you happen to knowwhat thenormal turn around time is for the TN permit? When I got my Georgia (many moons ago) it was same day at the courthouse. Unfortunately, my Georgia expired before i was aware that reciprocity had changed and TN would have just converted my carry permit. When I first moved here, I was toldthat GA permits weren'tconvertible since they had different requirements at the time.



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    Well here lately there doesn't seem to be normal amount of time before one is issued.

    By law they have up to 90 days. I have heard of some being issued in as little as 38 days, other right at the 90 day limit.
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    i got mine in 34 days if memory serves correctly

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    Well, the wife and I ended up going to ASP in Joelton. Good people, and better range ventilation than the On Target in M'boro. We decided on them because they were the only school around here that posted the instructors names and qualifications on their web site.



    My wife has a Charter Undercover in .38, and was a little worried about qualifying with it due to its short barrel and heavy trigger. ( we are going to get the trigger lightened a bit next month.) She's very accurate at the 7 yd or less, but a little wobbly at the 15 yd. The instructor let her use his fathers duty piece (father was a sherrif in Maine, apparently) a S&W with a 4 inch barrel and a heavily modified trigger. She ended up outshooting everyone in the class, including the armed security guys doing their requal. And at 17 wks pregnant!

    We both filed our applications this week, I'll be tracking dates for time to issue for future applicants.



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    James Woodard (731.584.8327) with ATA Defensive Industries in Camden, TN, is good to go!


    On Target is run by great folks, too!
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    I really disgree with this one! That means that we can have any yahoo running around with a gun with out the proper training. This really scares the hell out of me. Just my two-cents!
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    Joe Schmedlap out there with a loaded weapon thinking he's going to deter crime and he's not even trained to fire his weapon safely just kinda makes my hair on the back of my neck stand up.

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    Fallguy wrote:
    Well here lately there doesn't seem to be normal amount of time before one is issued.

    By law they have up to 90 days. I have heard of some being issued in as little as 38 days, other right at the 90 day limit.
    When I did the safety course in Hohenwald the instructors told us that it might take longer than the 90 days. He said that there had been a surge in applications recently and the state hasn't adjusted to handle it. We're going over to Lawrenceburg tommorrow to apply for our permits. Guess we'll have to wait and see how long it takes.

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    By law they must decline or issue within 90 days. There are no exceptions or extensions. If you have not been declined within 90 days, they are not allowed to take additional time to look for information, they must issue the permit.

    If they have not recieved all the background check info within the 90 days, they must issue the permit and if they later recieve information that declares the permit holder ineligible, they may revoke the permit. ref TCA 39-17-1351section L

    The law itself doesn't provide any remedy for non-compliance, But if my permit is not in my hand after the mail comes on the 90th day, my attorney will be calling the DoS the next day.



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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    Fallguy wrote:
    Well here lately there doesn't seem to be normal amount of time before one is issued.

    By law they have up to 90 days. I have heard of some being issued in as little as 38 days, other right at the 90 day limit.
    When I did the safety course in Hohenwald the instructors told us that it might take longer than the 90 days. He said that there had been a surge in applications recently and the state hasn't adjusted to handle it. We're going over to Lawrenceburg tommorrow to apply for our permits. Guess we'll have to wait and see how long it takes.
    On another forum I'm on a member contaced the office where they issue HCPs when it was close to 90 days for him. Turns out they only have 8 people working in that office to process all the new applications, renewals and answer the phone. Hopefully the will put more people in the office soon.

    The office manager, Ms Knight, actually said it can help to call and check on the status of your permit. Most I know wait about 4-6 weeks to call and many are told they will go ahead and issue the permit at that time.

    You can call (615) 251-8590 to check
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    Thanks for the information Fallguy. It's only been three weeks for me so far, so I'll wait another 2 and check.

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    No problem...afteryou call, make sure to come back and let us know how it went.
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    Pol Mordreth wrote:
    Thanks for the information Fallguy. It's only been three weeks for me so far, so I'll wait another 2 and check.
    Just got back from Lawrenceburg where I applied for my permit today. They said that the state wasbacked upon issuances and that it would probably take longer than ususal (what ever that is), so we'll see.

    named the town wrong

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    Well, I called yesterday afternoon to check on the status of our permits. This was 5 weeks to the day, or 35 days since application. They looked up both mine and my wifes, and went ahead and released them for issue. They said they should be in out hands in 7 to 14 calendar days.

    I have to say, this was the singularly most enjoyable experience I have ever had with a public employee. The lady on the phone was polite and helpful, and never indicated that I was interrupting her or that my request for status was an inconvenience. Dealing with people like this really helps me not mind paying taxes.



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    Well, I received my permit in todays post. 43 days all told. I think my first open carry experience will be either tonight or tomorrow, depending on what my wife's plans are for the weekend.

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    Called DOS today about my HCP status. Spoke to a nice lady who said she had everything in my packet but the application. Asked me to fax my copy to her and she'd get it going. It will be five weeks tomorrow since I applied.

    From what she told me, it appears that they are having touble with some scanning system that isn't living up to it's hype.

    My boss called about his and his wifes apps. His was approved and ready to be mailed (He's had a Fl license for a few years). His wifes packet had the same problem as mine and he had to fax her app copy, too. They told him that ours should be processed in the next 5 days and sent out. We might be seeing ours in the mail in a couple of weeks or so. We all applied on the same date.

    So it really does pay to give them a call.



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    Last time I renewed mine the THP lost mine. Waited a month to call. They said my permit had expired. Had to go to the THP and show them my copy of my renewal.They faxed it to Nashville. Got my permit in a week.





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    I found out a bit more today.

    Apparently they are using some new scanning system to digitalize the paperwork for their computers. They were tossing the paperwork after it was scanned, but something has been going wrong in either the scanning or the storage of the images and part of the scans gets lost. They have now started saving the original paperwork, as backup, incase anything dissapears in cyber space again.

    So everyone should call a month or so after applying for HCP, to make sure they have all your paperwork. Otherwise it could take the whole 90 days to get your application processed.

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    It took me about 65 days to get my permit in the mail. I was without internet access at the time or I'd have seen the information here about calling.

    Now, I shoot at Gun City alot in Nashville since it is fairly close to my house. It is an OK range with friendly staff. The only thing to watch out for is if you are over 5'5" you may bump your head when going down the steep stairs. Just remember to always duck.

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    Does it affect renewals, and if so, how?
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    SomeKid wrote:
    Does it affect renewals, and if so, how?
    It probably does.

    They ahve stopped throwing away the hardcopy original paper work after scanning. But if the scans don't show up on the computer they will have to sort through the originals to find what is missing. This will delay the processing. Calling and checking helps, so if something is missing you can fax or email or overnight what they need to expedite things along.

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    My boss recieved his HCP in the mail yesterday, 6 weeks to the day after we applied for our permits. His wifes and mine should be getting here by next week.

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