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Thread: VCDL Alert!! - Fire Mission -Post Heller Comments for National Parks Ban

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    Link: http://www2.vcdl.org/cgi-bin/wspd_cg...353&FILTER=

    **Even if you have already sent in a comment on the proposed gun-ban
    repeal in National Parks - READ ON**

    With the Heller decision ruling by the Supreme Court, it looks like
    the National Park gun ban is toast!

    The comment period on the repeal of the National Park gun ban ends
    MONDAY night, so WE NEED TO GET CRACKING NOW!!!

    We need to let the Department of the Interior know that the National
    Park gun ban is DOA, that the current gun-ban regulations be removed
    from the books, and that they need to implement the new regulations as
    per the VCDL wording.

    Here is the link to the contact page:

    http://tinyurl.com/5juwn3

    Copy and paste the following text into the "General Comments" box and
    then click "Next Step" at the bottom to continue.

    ***EVEN IF you already commented, you can submit an amendment to your
    comments with the text below***

    Suggested "General Comments" text:

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    Pursuant to the US Supreme Court decision in District of Columbia vs.
    Dick Heller, both the existing and proposed National Park Service &
    National Wildlife Refuge weapons regulations are invalid,
    unconstitutional and void. The Virginia Citizens Defense League and
    over 4 dozen co-petitioning organizations advised the Parks service of
    this as long ago as 2004. Since the holding in Heller is that their
    total ban on handguns infringes the 2nd Amendment, DOI and NPS should
    accept the VCDL petition language as follows and implement the
    regulation IMMEDIATELY after the comment period closing.

    Under existing legal doctrine, once a law is held unconstitutional, it
    is stricken; in the case of the park service CFR 36, regulation 2.4,
    it is almost exactly the same as the District of Columbia, and
    therefore void. Further, the DOI proposed regulation with it's flawed
    "analogous state lands" language and is thereby also in violation
    since any state level bans on bearing arms in analogous state lands
    would also be implicated under Heller. The Department of the Interior
    is hereby instructed to IMMEDIATELY amend the current regulations
    pursuant to the VCDL petition language, copied below and the decision
    of the US Supreme court rendered in Heller. The Supreme Court held
    that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right protecting the rights to
    keep arms and bear arms which supersedes CFR 36 regulation 2.4.

    I support the proposed change to permit loaded firearms / weapons in
    National Parks and Wildlife refuges but comment that the proposed
    regulation should be amended as follows:

    "A person may possess, carry, and transport loaded, and operable
    firearms or other weapons within a national park area in the same
    manner, and to the same extent, that a person may lawfully possess,
    carry, and transport loaded and operable firearms or other weapons in
    the state in which the federal park, or that portion thereof, is
    located, provided that such possession, carrying and transporting
    otherwise complies with applicable federal and state law."

    And for National Wildlife Refuges:

    "A person may possess, carry, and transport loaded, and operable
    firearms or other weapons within a national wildlife refuge area in
    the same manner, and to the same extent, that a person may lawfully
    possess, carry, and transport loaded and operable firearms or other
    weapons in the state in which the federal wildlife refuge, or that
    portion thereof, is located, provided that such possession, carrying
    and transporting otherwise complies with applicable federal and state
    law."

    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Beat me to posting this, sent my message, hit em hard.

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    Done. Currently over 19,000 comments.

    I hope to see over 25,000 comments on July 1 when the comment period closes June 30.

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    Done.

    Thanks to VCDL and everyone for their efforts!

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    I sure hope this has an impact.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Submitted and thanks again to VCDL !!!
    Where do you go to see how many comments there are ??

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    Particularly in view of Heller's plea for remedy that RKBA be permitted in Wash DC pursuant to issuance of a permit, that said permit be issued in good faith and without arbitrary and capricious impediment.

    Anyone in possession of a CCW in the state where the National Park is situated or otherwise in compliance with RKBA for the state in question (e.g. reciprocal CCW) should have the option of RKBA per Article II and Heller v. Wash. DC (SCOTUS 07-290)

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    Federal form is a bureaucratic quagmire. When I click on "next step" to submit commentary, the form/page reloads. I don't know if I got my comments submitted or not.

    "Federal"

    and

    "National Parks"

    -- and we wonder why our national interests are in the crapper . . .

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    http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...0000648064521f

    ***Link does not work as expected. If you click on "Docket FWS-R9-NSR-2008-0062". It will take you the listings. I will work on a direct link to comments later.

    Listed at 10/page 2385 pages = 23850 entries.

    23850 - 1 (Proposed Rules line) - 9 (only one comment on last page) = 23840 Comments.

    Random sampling all look pro-carry. Looking to see what people who are against it are writing.


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    -- That's not the link either. It connects to YOUR comment, not the comment page.

    Ohhhhhhhh well . . . I think I got a comment posted. I can't find the link now.


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