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First I'd like to say I've been reading the forums here for quite some time and have enjoyed all of your input and stories in the matter of Open Carry. I live in Northern California (El Dorado County) to be more specific. I actually had the pleasure to talk one on one with one of our Sheriff deputies while doing some work at his residence. I had asked him about open carry, and he basically referred to case law, stating that "if a loaded magazine and firearm are within reach of each other it is considered loaded". Now I have read all of your great information here but don't understand his conclusion. I've seen the case law posted on the site and it seems very unclear to me what the true definition of a "loaded firearm" is in the state of California. Some of the case law seems to agree with his statement, where other law states that it must be attached to the firearm. I'd also like to throw this out there for people to read. Listening to some of the interviews and posts on this site and other sites. People always ask, "Why open carry VS CCW?" Well I live in a pretty rural county where LEO's are pretty laid back. However it is still damn near impossible for an average citizen such as myself to aquire a CCW here, so I can imagine how hard it would be to get one in a big city. They want you to have cause, such as being a business owner, or someone who carries large amounts of cash. Are business owners the only people who crimes are comitted against?? Shouldn't I be able to protect myself and my family? So to answer these people's questions, I would open carry because for the average citizen it's near impossible to get a CCW. If the average Joe could get a CCW, I would go that route, but it seems that isn't an option. What's the only other option to have a firearm to protectmyself, when I'm out and about hunting, fishing, or just going to the bank to make a deposit? It seems open carry! Anyhow enough ranting, just wanted to see what you guys think. Thank you.
First I'd like to say I've been reading the forums here for quite some time and have enjoyed all of your input and stories in the matter of Open Carry. I live in Northern California (El Dorado County) to be more specific. I actually had the pleasure to talk one on one with one of our Sheriff deputies while doing some work at his residence. I had asked him about open carry, and he basically referred to case law, stating that "if a loaded magazine and firearm are within reach of each other it is considered loaded". Now I have read all of your great information here but don't understand his conclusion. I've seen the case law posted on the site and it seems very unclear to me what the true definition of a "loaded firearm" is in the state of California. Some of the case law seems to agree with his statement, where other law states that it must be attached to the firearm. I'd also like to throw this out there for people to read. Listening to some of the interviews and posts on this site and other sites. People always ask, "Why open carry VS CCW?" Well I live in a pretty rural county where LEO's are pretty laid back. However it is still damn near impossible for an average citizen such as myself to aquire a CCW here, so I can imagine how hard it would be to get one in a big city. They want you to have cause, such as being a business owner, or someone who carries large amounts of cash. Are business owners the only people who crimes are comitted against?? Shouldn't I be able to protect myself and my family? So to answer these people's questions, I would open carry because for the average citizen it's near impossible to get a CCW. If the average Joe could get a CCW, I would go that route, but it seems that isn't an option. What's the only other option to have a firearm to protectmyself, when I'm out and about hunting, fishing, or just going to the bank to make a deposit? It seems open carry! Anyhow enough ranting, just wanted to see what you guys think. Thank you.