You might want to pop into the Virginia forum and read some of the BMWAG (Black Man With A Gun) threads that were posted there last year; seems some members ran into issues.
I was going to point to those threads as well, the author is danbus.
He said African American, not black American. I am going to assume he meant a black person in his question.
Not being a smarta-- but there is a big difference here.
You got it right. I have known three African-Americans in my life; two were black and one was white. the problem I have with this, or any other qualification nomenclature, is the concept of "hyphenated Americanism". It comes across as someone who has a preferrence for some other allegiance rather than that of being American. It would be the same thing if I called myself an English-Irish-Welch American. I don't because I am native to this land.. I was born here as were a number of my previous ancestors.SouthernBoy wrote:He said African American, not black American. I am going to assume he meant a black person in his question.
Not being a smarta-- but there is a big difference here.
I was going to say something along those same lines. As in my mind an African American isn't a US citizen yet. A Black American is. I was born here along with my folks,but my grandparents are from Denmark. I'm 100% American with a Danish background.
Come over to the VA forum and chat with Danbus. He's a good guy. I have met him and he will answer many of you questions.
A white guy emmigrating from South Africa or Kenya could call himself an "African American" if he wanted. When my family emmigrated from Germany, some considered them 'German Americans.' The meaning has taken on its own spin over the past 30 years it seems.Bullbuster wrote:You got it right. I have known three African-Americans in my life; two were black and one was white. the problem I have with this, or any other qualification nomenclature, is the concept of "hyphenated Americanism". It comes across as someone who has a preferrence for some other allegiance rather than that of being American. It would be the same thing if I called myself an English-Irish-Welch American. I don't because I am native to this land.. I was born here as were a number of my previous ancestors.SouthernBoy wrote:He said African American, not black American. I am going to assume he meant a black person in his question.
Not being a smarta-- but there is a big difference here.
I was going to say something along those same lines. As in my mind an African American isn't a US citizen yet. A Black American is. I was born here along with my folks,but my grandparents are from Denmark. I'm 100% American with a Danish background.
Come over to the VA forum and chat with Danbus. He's a good guy. I have met him and he will answer many of you questions.
And yes, Danbus is a stand up guy. Not too wild about his BMWAG hat, though I know it is all done tongue in cheek. I prefer to see him as a man who just happens to be black, rather that a black man.
BTE, I am a Virginian and spend quite a bit of energy on the Virginia forum.
I will never forget watching CNN over the riots in France a few years ago.A white guy emmigrating from South Africa or Kenya could call himself an "African American" if he wanted. When my family emmigrated from Germany, some considered them 'German Americans.' The meaning has taken on its own spin over the past 30 years it seems.
Yes he could and in reality, he would be correct since the inferrence is a first generation American. The white "African American" I mentioned that I knew was from South Africa. He and his sister were both natualized Americans. When she was applying for college, she marked the box next to "African American" because she in fact, was. However, college admissions made her change this because she was not black.SouthernBoy wrote:A white guy emmigrating from South Africa or Kenya could call himself an "African American" if he wanted. When my family emmigrated from Germany, some considered them 'German Americans.' The meaning has taken on its own spin over the past 30 years it seems.Bullbuster wrote:You got it right. I have known three African-Americans in my life; two were black and one was white. the problem I have with this, or any other qualification nomenclature, is the concept of "hyphenated Americanism". It comes across as someone who has a preferrence for some other allegiance rather than that of being American. It would be the same thing if I called myself an English-Irish-Welch American. I don't because I am native to this land.. I was born here as were a number of my previous ancestors.SouthernBoy wrote:He said African American, not black American. I am going to assume he meant a black person in his question.
Not being a smarta-- but there is a big difference here.
I was going to say something along those same lines. As in my mind an African American isn't a US citizen yet. A Black American is. I was born here along with my folks,but my grandparents are from Denmark. I'm 100% American with a Danish background.
Come over to the VA forum and chat with Danbus. He's a good guy. I have met him and he will answer many of you questions.
And yes, Danbus is a stand up guy. Not too wild about his BMWAG hat, though I know it is all done tongue in cheek. I prefer to see him as a man who just happens to be black, rather that a black man.
BTE, I am a Virginian and spend quite a bit of energy on the Virginia forum.
Welcome to OCDO! And thank you for you story and honest perspective.Now in all my years OCing I have only been stopped one time by an LEO, and he did not exactly harrass me. I do often CC, but that is a topic for another thread.
The one time I was stopped was last spring, it is fairly warm in late spring in NC and I did not feel like putting on my jacket to CC, so I went OC. When I got out of my truck a cop walked up and asked to see my permit. Calmly I said I have a CCW permit, but I am open carrying so he does not need to see it. He responded by saying fair enough. Why are you open carrying if you have a CCW?
Answer? Because I felt like it!
With a smile he said fair enough. What ya carrying anyway?
It then turned into a twenty minute discussion, and an eventual friendship.
As a black man I am used to people crossing the street when they see me, and they cross a bit faster when I am OCing. But it dosent really matter.
Maybe it is just where I live, because I have been harrassed more by LEOs for the clothes I was wearing, or the way I looked at em in my home state of Iowa than anything else down here in NC.
Yeah, I've never understood this really. What are you supposed to call a black person in europe or canada, African-european, african-canadian? What do you call a black person who is from europe or canada but immigrated to the US, African-european-american? It's insane, why would someone care if they were referred to as black? I don't care if I'm referred to as white, it's simply the color of my skin. I don't call myself european-american.Thanks for the info and comments; I will be reading the posts you referred me to.
As far as my references, I am indeed referring to Black Americans, it is simply that in the San Francisco area, my colleagues refer to themselves in public as African Americans, just as others use Hispanic, Latino, etc. No disrepect meant.
Yeah, I've never understood this really. What are you supposed to call a black person in europe or canada, African-european, african-canadian? What do you call a black person who is from europe or canada but immigrated to the US, African-european-american? It's insane, why would someone care if they were referred to as black? I don't care if I'm referred to as white, it's simply the color of my skin. I don't call myself european-american.