LovesHisXD45
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I'm new to the forum. I have CCd for about 12 years and did not even know it was legal to OC until recently. My instructor, back in the days I got my license, told me that my gun could never be seen, "concealed means concealed" bla bla bla. I have read many threads on this forum to make sure I was fully acquainted with the concepts, rhetoric, acronyms andlaw before I actually got my feet wet and posted a real question.
Has anyone here OCd in Tooele, Erda, Lake Point or Gantsville? You guys/gals have inspired me to seriously consider OC for the first time, but I am aprehensive about the attention I might draw, and quite frankly, I'm scared to death. I'm one of those guys who doesn't like attention and gets nervous and stumbles overtheir words a bit in the presence of authority, ie LEO etc... I'm so afraid that something like what happened to TJ and some others might happen to me, that I'm just not sure about this. How are the LEOs out here where I live with respect to knowledge about OC? What are the chances that they might be like those in WVC and totally jump the gun, no pun intended, and react poorly if someone puts in a call for MWAG?
I CCd at the 4th-of-July parade and went down to the park with my wife and three kids on Friday. The whole time I was there, I was thinking about how it might be differrent if I was OC. I must have walked past at least5 LEOs at arms distance as we crossed the intersection two ways to get across the street to access the park. I gotself consciouseven with my weapon concealed. I have never broken a law in my life. I have been an upstanding citizen, and yet I don't understand why I'm afraid of law inforcemnt. I'm actually more afraid of them than the criminals. When I say this, I mean absolutely, and I mean ABSOLUTELY, no disrespect for LEOs.
I really want to do this eventually, butwhen you have beencarryingconcealedfor this many years and have such a distrust of law Enforcement, how do you get up the nerve to break free of the fear and actually go through with it? I have OC a couple of times when I'm hiking in the mountains, but that is totally different. I hardly run into other people; let alone the law up there. It's the concept of doing this in public in a populated area, with a sherrif or other LEO 5 minutes away at any given moment, that makes it so difficult.
I have gleaned enough knowledge from reading here to develop what I might say in any given situation but just don't know if I can deliver the message to a citizen or LEO in an effective manner without stumbling all over or saying the wrong thing and screwing it all up.
On a side note, it would be nice if the dispatchers who handle the 911 calls were trained to assess the situation better when somebody puts in a call for MWAG. They should be required to determine if the person carrying the gun has it in a holster for starters. Criminals don't usually carry their guns in holsters and never in plain sight. Duh! Secondly, they should be trained to ask the caller whether the person with the gun is commiting a crimeand if the person actually has their hand(s) on the gun at all and what the person is doing at the time.If some poor guy is in the produce isle at a grocery store checking the ripeness of a cantalope and has a cart half full of food next to him, would you send the cops out after him just because he has a holstered sidearm? Common sense people! Most of the calls that result in problems from LEOs could be eliminated if the dispatchers didn't send them out in the first place. They, thedispatchers,should also educate the public about OC when someone puts in a call thatis determined to besomeone legally engaged inOC and perfectly legal in doing so. That way the caller would know better and be less likely to call again if they see somebody else OCing another day. Just a thought.
Kevin
I'm new to the forum. I have CCd for about 12 years and did not even know it was legal to OC until recently. My instructor, back in the days I got my license, told me that my gun could never be seen, "concealed means concealed" bla bla bla. I have read many threads on this forum to make sure I was fully acquainted with the concepts, rhetoric, acronyms andlaw before I actually got my feet wet and posted a real question.
Has anyone here OCd in Tooele, Erda, Lake Point or Gantsville? You guys/gals have inspired me to seriously consider OC for the first time, but I am aprehensive about the attention I might draw, and quite frankly, I'm scared to death. I'm one of those guys who doesn't like attention and gets nervous and stumbles overtheir words a bit in the presence of authority, ie LEO etc... I'm so afraid that something like what happened to TJ and some others might happen to me, that I'm just not sure about this. How are the LEOs out here where I live with respect to knowledge about OC? What are the chances that they might be like those in WVC and totally jump the gun, no pun intended, and react poorly if someone puts in a call for MWAG?
I CCd at the 4th-of-July parade and went down to the park with my wife and three kids on Friday. The whole time I was there, I was thinking about how it might be differrent if I was OC. I must have walked past at least5 LEOs at arms distance as we crossed the intersection two ways to get across the street to access the park. I gotself consciouseven with my weapon concealed. I have never broken a law in my life. I have been an upstanding citizen, and yet I don't understand why I'm afraid of law inforcemnt. I'm actually more afraid of them than the criminals. When I say this, I mean absolutely, and I mean ABSOLUTELY, no disrespect for LEOs.
I really want to do this eventually, butwhen you have beencarryingconcealedfor this many years and have such a distrust of law Enforcement, how do you get up the nerve to break free of the fear and actually go through with it? I have OC a couple of times when I'm hiking in the mountains, but that is totally different. I hardly run into other people; let alone the law up there. It's the concept of doing this in public in a populated area, with a sherrif or other LEO 5 minutes away at any given moment, that makes it so difficult.
I have gleaned enough knowledge from reading here to develop what I might say in any given situation but just don't know if I can deliver the message to a citizen or LEO in an effective manner without stumbling all over or saying the wrong thing and screwing it all up.
On a side note, it would be nice if the dispatchers who handle the 911 calls were trained to assess the situation better when somebody puts in a call for MWAG. They should be required to determine if the person carrying the gun has it in a holster for starters. Criminals don't usually carry their guns in holsters and never in plain sight. Duh! Secondly, they should be trained to ask the caller whether the person with the gun is commiting a crimeand if the person actually has their hand(s) on the gun at all and what the person is doing at the time.If some poor guy is in the produce isle at a grocery store checking the ripeness of a cantalope and has a cart half full of food next to him, would you send the cops out after him just because he has a holstered sidearm? Common sense people! Most of the calls that result in problems from LEOs could be eliminated if the dispatchers didn't send them out in the first place. They, thedispatchers,should also educate the public about OC when someone puts in a call thatis determined to besomeone legally engaged inOC and perfectly legal in doing so. That way the caller would know better and be less likely to call again if they see somebody else OCing another day. Just a thought.
Kevin
My work is going to pay out a stock option for us soon,but I'll probably have to wait until the end of August before I can afford to purchase the new holster. We are having some hard financial difficulties right now, and I can't justify a new equipment purchase at the moment. I haven't even been to the range in months because I can't afford the ammo.