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    It was a friendly visit, but does display a commentary on our community.


    Friend of mine was out shooting North of Lemmon Valley, at a place where I know many CCW instructors take their students and many other gunners frequent. It's an idea shooting area up there, with a 50ft natural soft berm that is completely void of sage and other plant life. Awesome, safe area.


    As my friend and his brother were wrapping it up, a 4x4 from the Sheriff's office came rolling up the trail. Deputy had no problem with them out there, knew it was legal, encouraged them to keep going, etc. A very friendly sheriff. But he took an issue with the brass left by my friend. Sheriff claims he has been dealing with some (insert colorful bash on the liberal non-Nevadan mindset) people who complain that we ruin their trails with spend shells and brass. My buddy jokingly replied that he was just making sure the metals got back to the earth where they started from to which the Sheriff claims the true culpriate of the complaints are shot gunners (since plastic kills, apparently). My friend ended up having to "pick up the shinny ones" since there are literally thousands of shells there. Deputy's reason was at least we can tell those nearby anti's that we're trying.

    This made me think about casings. I've honestly never been a clean up sort of guy. I've always made it a point to stick to shooting in places already "messy" with brass there long before I arrive. I don't believe I need to run around and put brass everywhere at random, but I never thought about cleaning up 500+ shells, just cleaning up the targets and other breakables I tend to shoot at.

    I'll be cleaning up my brass from now on. I've come up with the idea of laying out a tarp for the brass to fly onto, then using the tarp to funnel the brass into a bucket. Deputy mentioned to my friend it might be best to try and keep it clean or risk losing our close by shooting areas. I'm going to be doing my part from here on out (and also selling once fired brass for a decent price if anyone might be interested


    Just talking out loud. Thank you to any WCSO deputies who might frequent this board for supporting gun rights all along.

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    that sounds like a decent encounter. now that lifestyle homes blocked off the ranges out here in cold springs, i'm in need a new shooting area. i was thinking about checking out the area in lemmon valley, but i have no idea where it is.

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    I always pick up the casings due to their reload value. I always make it a point to make the earth cleaner than Ifound it. If I ever leave brass or other things behind I figure I make up for it by collecting trash now and then.


    njeske, The area behind your housing development where I used to shoot, I was once told by a law enforcement offiicer that it was legal if I just went out farther. If you just drive a bit farther out on those dirt roads (assuming a truck or other vehicle that can go offroads) you can shoot out there. You just have to find a spot 3000 feet from the nearest structure I think. I've found acouple suitable places out there.






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    Felid`Maximus wrote:
    I always pick up the casings due to their reload value. I always make it a point to make the earth cleaner than Ifound it. If I ever leave brass or other things behind I figure I make up for it by collecting trash now and then.


    njeske, The area behind your housing development where I used to shoot, I was once told by a law enforcement offiicer that it was legal if I just went out farther. If you just drive a bit farther out on those dirt roads (assuming a truck or other vehicle that can go offroads) you can shoot out there. You just have to find a spot 3000 feet from the nearest structure I think. I've found acouple suitable places out there.
    Yeah I've been told I can drive further out as well. I just haven't taken the time to do it yet. Maybe we can get together one of these days for shooting and you can show me. Being that I'm unemployed at the moment, you can pick the time.

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    njeske wrote:
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    I always pick up the casings due to their reload value. I always make it a point to make the earth cleaner than Ifound it. If I ever leave brass or other things behind I figure I make up for it by collecting trash now and then.


    njeske, The area behind your housing development where I used to shoot, I was once told by a law enforcement offiicer that it was legal if I just went out farther. If you just drive a bit farther out on those dirt roads (assuming a truck or other vehicle that can go offroads) you can shoot out there. You just have to find a spot 3000 feet from the nearest structure I think. I've found acouple suitable places out there.
    Yeah I've been told I can drive further out as well. I just haven't taken the time to do it yet. Maybe we can get together one of these days for shooting and you can show me. Being that I'm unemployed at the moment, you can pick the time.

    Sounds fun. I'm not sure when a good time will be though. (I'm pondering it)



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    Felid`Maximus wrote:
    You just have to find a spot 3000 feet from the nearest structure I think.
    Correction: 5000 feet is the current Washoe County rule. I think it changed from 3000 not long ago.

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    Felid`Maximus wrote:
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    You just have to find a spot 3000 feet from the nearest structure I think.
    Correction: 5000 feet is the current Washoe County rule. I think it changed from 3000 not long ago.
    yeah i thought it was 5000 feet. i just watch my odomoter until i've got a full mile.

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    1000 ft for shotguns

    5000 ft for rifles and handguns



    If you've ever gone shooting up past the Spanish Springs High School, they've got a sign that says the same thing. I was going to post about the 3000 but you guys beat me to it lol

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    I firmly believe in having trash bags in your range bag. Pick up yours and some of the stuff left behind by others. Shooting at glass? Be sure to pick it up. Same goes for home electronics. If I ever find someone shooting up computers and VCRs on the public lands and they go to leave without picking it up I will make sure the Sheriff knows about it. Just because it's used as a target doesn't mean it can be left. It is littering and it causes the problem mentioned previously of land closure. With a county range that operates only on weekends and isn't very accessable, it's almost 600 acres and about 80 is open to the public, housing going in everywhere, and antis fleeing from the socialist republic west of us it is only going to get harder to find a place to shoot.

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    I always pick up my brass if I am shooting out on public lands. If your brass is new and shiny it's pretty easy to spot unless it jumps into the middle of a sage brush or other plant. The desert being somewhat sparse makes this easier.

    Of course on the black rock desert (or other playa) it's trivial to see and collect your brass, too.

    If I'm at the Washoe County outdoor range or at an indoor range, I just sweep it up, or whatever the convention is for that place.

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    jfrey123 wrote:
    It was a friendly visit, but does display a commentary on our community.


    Friend of mine was out shooting North of Lemmon Valley, at a place where I know many CCW instructors take their students and many other gunners frequent.* It's an idea shooting area up there, with a 50ft natural soft berm that is completely void of sage and other plant life.* Awesome, safe area.


    As my friend and his brother were wrapping it up, a 4x4 from the Sheriff's office came rolling up the trail.* Deputy had no problem with them out there, knew it was legal, encouraged them to keep going, etc.* A very friendly sheriff.* But he took an issue with the brass left by my friend.* Sheriff claims he has been dealing with some (insert colorful bash on the liberal non-Nevadan mindset) people who complain that we ruin their trails with spend shells and brass.* My buddy jokingly replied that he was just making sure the metals got back to the earth where they started from to which the Sheriff claims the true culpriate of the complaints are shot gunners (since plastic kills, apparently).* My friend ended up having to "pick up the shinny ones" since there are literally thousands of shells there.* Deputy's reason was at least we can tell those nearby anti's that we're trying.

    This made me think about casings.* I've honestly never been a clean up sort of guy.* I've always made it a point to stick to shooting in places already "messy" with brass there long before I arrive.* I don't believe I need to run around and put brass everywhere at random, but I never thought about cleaning up 500+ shells, just cleaning up the targets and other breakables I tend to shoot at.

    I'll be cleaning up my brass from now on.* I've come up with the idea of laying out a tarp for the brass to fly onto, then using the tarp to funnel the brass into a bucket.* Deputy mentioned to my friend it might be best to try and keep it clean or risk losing our close by shooting areas.* I'm going to be doing my part from here on out (and also selling once fired brass for a decent price if anyone might be interested


    Just talking out loud.* Thank you to any WCSO deputies who might frequent this board for supporting gun rights all along.
    I don't have a problem with the deputy being concerned about the brass being left out there It's a well known fact that people dump their garbage, old appliances and even cars on BLM land. I have seen it and it looks terrible. When I visit my brother in Gardnerville, we shoot in the Toiyabe National Forrest. We always pick our spent casings, whether they be brass or shotgun shells and we take our garbage with us.

    Both parties handled themselves well. Not a bad encounter.

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