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Thread: Comment Period Extended for proposed Rule Repealing National Park Gun Ban

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    http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=090000648066022a- comments due AUG 8, 2008






    Public Comment and Submission Form



    Docket and Document Information


    Docket ID
    NPS_FRDOC_0001

    Docket Title
    Recently Posted NPS Rules and Notices.

    Document ID
    NPS_FRDOC_0001-0015

    Document Title
    [size=General Regulations for Areas Administered by the National Park Service and the Fish and Wildlife Service][/size]

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    How to Comment
    You may submit comments, by any of the following methods: --Federal rulemaking portal:http://www.regulations.gov. Follow the instructions for submitting comments. --Mail: Public Comments Processing, Attn: 1024-AD70; Division of Policy and Directives Management; U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service; 4401 N. Fairfax Drive, Suite 222; Arlington, VA 22203. --Hand-deliver: 4401 North Fairfax Drive, Suite 222, Arlington, VA 22203.

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    I think that perhaps they've seen the light and want to read more PRO comments!



    How about best two out of three? Uh oh....



    OK, ok, best three out of five! Whoops...



    OK then, best five out of seven! Crap...



    Maybe if theykeep on trying, they'll increase theirodds of winning! (yeah, from 1 in a million to 2 in a million - great job!)





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    BobCav wrote:
    I think that perhaps they've seen the light and want to read more PRO comments!

    How about best two out of three? Uh oh....


    OK, ok, best three out of five! Whoops...


    OK then, best five out of seven! Crap...

    Maybe if theykeep on trying, they'll increase theirodds of winning! (yeah, from 1 in a million to 2 in a million - great job!)
    You can't blame them for trying because it's worked before, BobCav. That's how the current governor of Washington State got her job.

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    I work for the NPS and think it's a great thing...just sent my comment in 'in favor of...'

    Guess we'll see what happens!

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    murf26 wrote:
    I work for the NPS and think it's a great thing...just sent my comment in 'in favor of...'

    Guess we'll see what happens!
    I hope you bnoted you are in favor of the concept but want them to adopt the forest service rule which allows open carry too.

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    For those who haven't done it.. DO IT!
    this should be a direct link to comment:
    http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...1215790991312#

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    contact Nat'l Park Service again - with link


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Philip Van Cleave
    Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:56 AM
    Subject: VA-ALERT: National Parks playing games
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    Let the games begin.

    The Department of the Interior has extended the comment period on
    allowing lawful carry of firearms in National Parks until August 8th
    (it was supposed to end on June 30th).

    Why?

    Because pro-gun comments have dwarfed the anti-liberty crowd and there
    are some, including some Congressmen, who don't like that.

    The delay allows the dark side to organize against us.

    But they underestimate gun owners. We will NOT give in! Instead we
    will use the delay to continue pounding for carry in National Parks.

    --

    ACTION ITEM

    Spread this alert item on the Internet far and wide so we can get more
    and more gun owners to send in their comments. Send this to friends,
    family, coworkers.

    If we do that and drive our numbers up, we can continue to bury the
    other side with pro-liberty comments!

    If you have already contacted the Department of the Interior (DOI) to
    allow carry in parks, DO IT AGAIN!

    To comment on the proposed rule, click here:

    http://tinyurl.com/5juwn3

    For "Submitter's Representative," type in your Congressman's name.
    Mine is "Congressman Eric Cantor"
    For "Agency Type," select: FEDERAL
    For "Government Agency," select: DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR

    SUGGESTED "GENERAL COMMENT" TEXT:

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    Pursuant to the US Supreme Court decision in District of Columbia vs.
    Dick Heller, both the existing and proposed National Park Service &
    National Wildlife Refuge weapons regulations are invalid,
    unconstitutional and void. The Virginia Citizens Defense League and
    over 4 dozen co-petitioning organizations advised the Parks service of
    this as long ago as 2004. Since the holding in Heller is that their
    total ban on handguns infringes the 2nd Amendment, DOI and NPS should
    accept the VCDL petition language as follows and implement the
    regulation IMMEDIATELY after the comment period closing.

    Under existing legal doctrine, once a law is held unconstitutional, it
    is stricken; in the case of the park service CFR 36, regulation 2.4,
    it is almost exactly the same as the District of Columbia, and
    therefore void. Further, the DOI proposed regulation with it's flawed
    "analogous state lands" language and is thereby also in violation
    since any state level bans on bearing arms in analogous state lands
    would also be implicated under Heller. The Department of the Interior
    is hereby instructed to IMMEDIATELY amend the current regulations
    pursuant to the VCDL petition language, copied below and the decision
    of the US Supreme court rendered in Heller. The Supreme Court held
    that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right protecting the rights to
    keep arms and bear arms which supersedes CFR 36 regulation 2.4.

    While I support the proposed change to permit loaded firearms /
    weapons in National Parks and Wildlife refuges, the proposed
    regulation should be amended as follows:

    "A person may possess, carry, and transport loaded, and operable
    firearms or other weapons within a national park area in the same
    manner, and to the same extent, that a person may lawfully possess,
    carry, and transport loaded and operable firearms or other weapons in
    the state in which the federal park, or that portion thereof, is
    located, provided that such possession, carrying and transporting
    otherwise complies with applicable federal and state law."

    And for National Wildlife Refuges:"

    A person may possess, carry, and transport loaded, and operable
    firearms or other weapons within a national wildlife refuge area in
    the same manner, and to the same extent, that a person may lawfully
    possess, carry, and transport loaded and operable firearms or other
    weapons in the state in which the federal wildlife refuge, or that
    portion thereof, is located, provided that such possession, carrying
    and transporting otherwise complies with applicable federal and state
    law."


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    VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
    (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
    dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
    Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

    VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
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