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ok here is the news story, she was not armed, but you usualy are... I know most people at first will say yes because it was kidnapping, but if you found this what might you do?
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=3728039
Mother rescues children from suspected kidnapper
July 10th, 2008 @ 5:56pm
Team coverage
A South Salt Lake man is in jail accused of kidnapping two small children from their home. The mother of one of the children found them in the man's house.
The mother and the suspect are neighbors, so she didn't mind when he came over last week. The woman, who didn't want to be identified, says she won't be so trusting anymore.
"I think it may have been a 10-minute time frame that he had had them," the mother said.
Earlier that day, neighbor David Bell had been at her house for the family's Fourth of July party. "He kind of just came over and just kind of wanted to hang out. We didn't have a problem with that. He seemed pretty nice," the mother said.
Court documents say in the early morning hours, as the children slept, Bell took the woman's 2-year-old daughter and 4-year-old nephew. The woman says her 4-year-old daughter saw it happen and, thinking it was a bad dream, began to cry. That alerted her mother.
"I noticed my 2-year-old missing, so I searched the whole house. I guess by instinct, I just went directly over to the neighbor's house and found the children and him and his partner in the bedroom," the mother said.
She says the children were clothed but holding hands and crying. She doesn't like to think about what could have happened. "When I was walking up the stairs to his bedroom, I could hear him say things to the kids like, 'You're so beautiful. I just want to make sure you're OK. You're so beautiful.' That, to me, is just creepy," she said.
Bell got into a scuffle with the victim's family before the cops arrived. He's now in jail, charged with kidnapping. The other man in his home was not charged.
"I hope he rots. I don't see any reason why he would want to even take someone's children out of their home unless they were planning to do something that's not right," the mother said.
Court documents say Bell admitted to taking the children into his house, but we don't know his motive.
We also talked woman whose nephew witnessed what happened. He claims the children knocked on Bell's door looking for their mother. He says Bell took them in to help them, and then the father of the 4-year-old boy got into a fight with Bell. Police pursued assault charges against him.
So.... in most/some states you can use deadly force against kidnapping.
this is what I would have done:
If I were that woman, keep in mind I carry my gun almost everywhere I go, I would have the right to use my firearm in the situation because he kidnapped my kid/s. I would probably not shoot him in the current situationthe woman found the kidsbut definitely draw on him. If the situation escalated more than what the woman found I would say there would be a 99.9% chance I would shoot.
It looks as if he got the crap beat out of him though :celebrate, and if didnt think I should use a firearm, I would probably kick his butt too.
EDIT: Please refraim from making comments about what you personaly think the criminal is or "the empty my mag into him and reload" comment. Its about whats happening and what the laws allow you to do. Thanks
ok here is the news story, she was not armed, but you usualy are... I know most people at first will say yes because it was kidnapping, but if you found this what might you do?
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=3728039
Mother rescues children from suspected kidnapper
July 10th, 2008 @ 5:56pm
Team coverage
A South Salt Lake man is in jail accused of kidnapping two small children from their home. The mother of one of the children found them in the man's house.
The mother and the suspect are neighbors, so she didn't mind when he came over last week. The woman, who didn't want to be identified, says she won't be so trusting anymore.
"I think it may have been a 10-minute time frame that he had had them," the mother said.
Earlier that day, neighbor David Bell had been at her house for the family's Fourth of July party. "He kind of just came over and just kind of wanted to hang out. We didn't have a problem with that. He seemed pretty nice," the mother said.
Court documents say in the early morning hours, as the children slept, Bell took the woman's 2-year-old daughter and 4-year-old nephew. The woman says her 4-year-old daughter saw it happen and, thinking it was a bad dream, began to cry. That alerted her mother.
"I noticed my 2-year-old missing, so I searched the whole house. I guess by instinct, I just went directly over to the neighbor's house and found the children and him and his partner in the bedroom," the mother said.
She says the children were clothed but holding hands and crying. She doesn't like to think about what could have happened. "When I was walking up the stairs to his bedroom, I could hear him say things to the kids like, 'You're so beautiful. I just want to make sure you're OK. You're so beautiful.' That, to me, is just creepy," she said.
Bell got into a scuffle with the victim's family before the cops arrived. He's now in jail, charged with kidnapping. The other man in his home was not charged.
"I hope he rots. I don't see any reason why he would want to even take someone's children out of their home unless they were planning to do something that's not right," the mother said.
Court documents say Bell admitted to taking the children into his house, but we don't know his motive.
We also talked woman whose nephew witnessed what happened. He claims the children knocked on Bell's door looking for their mother. He says Bell took them in to help them, and then the father of the 4-year-old boy got into a fight with Bell. Police pursued assault charges against him.
So.... in most/some states you can use deadly force against kidnapping.
this is what I would have done:
If I were that woman, keep in mind I carry my gun almost everywhere I go, I would have the right to use my firearm in the situation because he kidnapped my kid/s. I would probably not shoot him in the current situationthe woman found the kidsbut definitely draw on him. If the situation escalated more than what the woman found I would say there would be a 99.9% chance I would shoot.
It looks as if he got the crap beat out of him though :celebrate, and if didnt think I should use a firearm, I would probably kick his butt too.
EDIT: Please refraim from making comments about what you personaly think the criminal is or "the empty my mag into him and reload" comment. Its about whats happening and what the laws allow you to do. Thanks