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I sort of had a duct tape moment because of the comments about getting "advance permission" from the local restaurant and the local law enforcement agency concerning the multi-state meet-up here http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=13340&forum_id=54&jump_to=215187.
That is not the only place I have encountered the attitude that in order to be "safe" folks should contact the local law enforcement agency and see if they were "OK" with a bunch of folks who happen to be legally OC-ing getting together for a meal or some other reason. The same goes for suggestions that the place where folks are going to meet - usually a restaurant - ought to be contacted ahead of time to see if they are "OK" with a bunch of folks who are legally OC-ing getting together there for a meal.
First, the places that are suggested are most often those where others have boldly gone before, and the attitude of the place is known to be tolerant if not outright friendly to OC-ers.
Second, an attitude that suggests that we need to seek out a prior OK from the restaurant management places us in second class status, as I seriously doubt that if a bunch of plainclothes cops decided to go out to lunch together they would call up first and see if the place had any problems with a bunch of folks toting guns arriving for a meal. (I will NOT entertain any discussion of the "We are cops so you cannot complain about us" variety, thank you very much.)
Third, if a place previously lnown to be tolerant or outright friendly to OC-ing suddenly has a change of heart because of the "large" number of OC-ers, they will also be aware of the loss of business for that day = and perhaps even consider future loss as well.
I do not know all of you, but I presume you are all basically polite and kind folks who do not stiff the wait staff by not leaving a tip, and who do not regularly shoot up the place when you have had one too many rootbeer. I'm even willing to go out on the proverbial limb and guess that you are more likely that others to control your children if they accompany them - at least to the point that they do not jump on top of other diners' tables, snatch food off other people's plates, or go running around the dining areascreaming at the top of their lungs. As such, you are probably the kind of patrons that most restaurants want to have as guests.
So, wrapping up my little rant - would someone please explain to me why there is all this paranoia about getting permission and prior approval to go out for a meal with some friends just because we happen to be legally OC-ing?
Thank you, and we now return you to your normal viewing schedule.
stay safe.
skidmark
I sort of had a duct tape moment because of the comments about getting "advance permission" from the local restaurant and the local law enforcement agency concerning the multi-state meet-up here http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=13340&forum_id=54&jump_to=215187.
That is not the only place I have encountered the attitude that in order to be "safe" folks should contact the local law enforcement agency and see if they were "OK" with a bunch of folks who happen to be legally OC-ing getting together for a meal or some other reason. The same goes for suggestions that the place where folks are going to meet - usually a restaurant - ought to be contacted ahead of time to see if they are "OK" with a bunch of folks who are legally OC-ing getting together there for a meal.
First, the places that are suggested are most often those where others have boldly gone before, and the attitude of the place is known to be tolerant if not outright friendly to OC-ers.
Second, an attitude that suggests that we need to seek out a prior OK from the restaurant management places us in second class status, as I seriously doubt that if a bunch of plainclothes cops decided to go out to lunch together they would call up first and see if the place had any problems with a bunch of folks toting guns arriving for a meal. (I will NOT entertain any discussion of the "We are cops so you cannot complain about us" variety, thank you very much.)
Third, if a place previously lnown to be tolerant or outright friendly to OC-ing suddenly has a change of heart because of the "large" number of OC-ers, they will also be aware of the loss of business for that day = and perhaps even consider future loss as well.
I do not know all of you, but I presume you are all basically polite and kind folks who do not stiff the wait staff by not leaving a tip, and who do not regularly shoot up the place when you have had one too many rootbeer. I'm even willing to go out on the proverbial limb and guess that you are more likely that others to control your children if they accompany them - at least to the point that they do not jump on top of other diners' tables, snatch food off other people's plates, or go running around the dining areascreaming at the top of their lungs. As such, you are probably the kind of patrons that most restaurants want to have as guests.
So, wrapping up my little rant - would someone please explain to me why there is all this paranoia about getting permission and prior approval to go out for a meal with some friends just because we happen to be legally OC-ing?
Thank you, and we now return you to your normal viewing schedule.
stay safe.
skidmark