Results 1 to 23 of 23

Thread: Discreet OpenCarry Tips

  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lehi, Utah, USA
    Posts
    47

    Post imported post

    I'd like for those of you who don't have negative encounters with businesses or LEOs to please tell me what you believe it is about you that keeps you from having LEO encounters, and what keeps you from being asked to leave.

    I heard that if you are carrying a baby and are dressed nicely, you'll have an easy time of it.... (no kidding about the baby!)

    Are there any other good tips out there for discreet OC?

    Also, does discreet OC often mean "partially hidden" OC? If so, how hidden?

  2. #2
    Regular Member Harper1227's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Lorton, VA
    Posts
    387

    Post imported post

    eddified wrote:
    I'd like for those of you who don't have negative encounters with businesses or LEOs to please tell me what you believe it is about you that keeps you from having LEO encounters, and what keeps you from being asked to leave.

    I heard that if you are carrying a baby and are dressed nicely, you'll have an easy time of it.... (no kidding about the baby!)

    Are there any other good tips out there for discreet OC?

    Also, does discreet OC often mean "partially hidden" OC? If so, how hidden?
    I have never had any bad encounters with LEOs and my husband and I have only been asked to leave places once or twice. I agree with the baby thing. We always travel as a family. Matching SIGs, leather galco snap holsters. Me in black slacks and a dress shirt, dad in khakis and a button-up with a high and tight, and a two year old in pig tails. I think most people just see a nice family. Most probably don't even notice the guns. And if they do, I don't think it bothers them as much as if say we were wearing baggy jeans and had the guns tucked in our waists. One OC event we went to we were originally asked to leave but the manager relented that we looked like a nice 'normal' family and he would be happy to serve us. I think the best thing to do is to dress and act appropriately for the situation and always be above reproach. That is not to say that you still won't sometimes be harassed or asked to leave, but IMHO dress, demeanor, and sometimes even age are very important.

    Whether that is right or wrong, I won't comment on, but like all things the best way to be discreet is to just blend, don't draw attention to yourself, act like you are exactly where you should be, doing exactly what you should be doing. just my .02

  3. #3
    Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter Venator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Lansing area, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    6,446

    Post imported post

    Harper1227 wrote:
    eddified wrote:
    I'd like for those of you who don't have negative encounters with businesses or LEOs to please tell me what you believe it is about you that keeps you from having LEO encounters, and what keeps you from being asked to leave.

    I heard that if you are carrying a baby and are dressed nicely, you'll have an easy time of it.... (no kidding about the baby!)

    Are there any other good tips out there for discreet OC?

    Also, does discreet OC often mean "partially hidden" OC? If so, how hidden?
    I have never had any bad encounters with LEOs and my husband and I have only been asked to leave places once or twice. I agree with the baby thing. We always travel as a family. Matching SIGs, leather galco snap holsters. Me in black slacks and a dress shirt, dad in khakis and a button-up with a high and tight, and a two year old in pig tails. I think most people just see a nice family. Most probably don't even notice the guns. And if they do, I don't think it bothers them as much as if say we were wearing baggy jeans and had the guns tucked in our waists. One OC event we went to we were originally asked to leave but the manager relented that we looked like a nice 'normal' family and he would be happy to serve us. I think the best thing to do is to dress and act appropriately for the situation and always be above reproach. That is not to say that you still won't sometimes be harassed or asked to leave, but IMHO dress, demeanor, and sometimes even age are very important.

    Whether that is right or wrong, I won't comment on, but like all things the best way to be discreet is to just blend, don't draw attention to yourself, act like you are exactly where you should be, doing exactly what you should be doing. just my .02
    Sad but true, how your dress and your age are big factors in regards to OCing. I think those under 30 are going to draw more attention from the public as well as the police. My advice if you are under 30 dressing casual nice will help with the attention factor.
    An Amazon best seller "MY PARENTS OPEN CARRY" http://www.myparentsopencarry.com/

    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

  4. #4
    Campaign Veteran
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Kalamazoo, MI
    Posts
    839

    Post imported post

    I'm well under thirty and have had no issues. I definitely think the 3 month old has something to do with it though. I never dress to OC, once I'm out of work it's jean shorts and a t-shirt.

  5. #5
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Secretary MOC, Inc. Frankenmuth, , USA
    Posts
    894

    Post imported post

    asforme wrote:
    I'm well under thirty and have had no issues. I definitely think the 3 month old has something to do with it though. I never dress to OC, once I'm out of work it's jean shorts and a t-shirt.
    Ditto, except mines 4, but I don't have her with me all the time. I don't feel like dressing differently just to make the "public" more comfortable. I'll be turning 22 in September, and I haven't had any issues and I don't dress nicer just to OC. Although, as I've said before, I don't dress "trashy" either. Usually jeans and a t-shirt.

  6. #6
    Campaign Veteran
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Kalamazoo, MI
    Posts
    839

    Post imported post

    SQLtables wrote:
    asforme wrote:
    I'm well under thirty and have had no issues. I definitely think the 3 month old has something to do with it though. I never dress to OC, once I'm out of work it's jean shorts and a t-shirt.
    Ditto, except mines 4, but I don't have her with me all the time. I don't feel like dressing differently just to make the "public" more comfortable. I'll be turning 22 in September, and I haven't had any issues and I don't dress nicer just to OC. Although, as I've said before, I don't dress "trashy" either. Usually jeans and a t-shirt.
    I just noticed, you're from Frankenmuth, have you ever OCd in that ridiculous Christmas store?

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Secretary MOC, Inc. Frankenmuth, , USA
    Posts
    894

    Post imported post

    asforme wrote:
    SQLtables wrote:
    asforme wrote:
    I'm well under thirty and have had no issues. I definitely think the 3 month old has something to do with it though. I never dress to OC, once I'm out of work it's jean shorts and a t-shirt.
    Ditto, except mines 4, but I don't have her with me all the time. I don't feel like dressing differently just to make the "public" more comfortable. I'll be turning 22 in September, and I haven't had any issues and I don't dress nicer just to OC. Although, as I've said before, I don't dress "trashy" either. Usually jeans and a t-shirt.
    I just noticed, you're from Frankenmuth, have you ever OCd in that ridiculous Christmas store?
    HAHA, no. But I did work there a few years ago. It made me very tired of Christmas.

    To be honest, I don't OC in Frankenmuth a whole lot, aside from my home, for my own personal reasons. That might be an interesting thing to try out sometime though.

  8. #8
    Regular Member Gunslinger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Free, Colorado, USA
    Posts
    3,855

    Post imported post

    Older, wear a Rolex, dress conservatively. I've been asked not if I was a cop, but if I was a Federal Agent! Twice. I guess I look like Mark Harmon...
    "For any man who sheds his blood with me this day shall be my brother...And gentlemen now abed shall think themselves accursed, they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks who fought with us on Crispin's day." Henry V

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    uTAH-life member: NRA, GOA, CCRKBA, ,
    Posts
    291

    Post imported post

    It boils down to dressing in clean well kept clothes and acting the part. If your clothes are clean and well-kept, and you look like carrying a gun is as normal as wearing socks as far as you're concerned, you'll have little trouble.



    There are certain "styles" that WILL get you extra attention. You can whine all you want, but that's just the way it is.



    The WORST thing to do while OCing? Acting nervous and flighty about it. The only way past this?OC. A lot. Then it does become as normal as putting on a shirt in the morning.

  10. #10
    Campaign Veteran skidmark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    North Chesterfield VA
    Posts
    10,682

    Post imported post

    "Discreet OC"? "Partially hidden OC"? Perhaps you refer to the Virginia folks who can legally OC with an IWB holster as long as the grip is clearly visible?

    There are times when I purposely OC using a holster that stands out, and have a handgun with highly noticable stocks (ivory or exotic woods, not Blaze Orange) for the purpose of calling attention to my rig.

    Being single, I do not have family to use as a visual distraction from my OC status.

    So far I have not been asked to leave a business location because of my OC-ing. So far I have not had a negative encounter with law enforcement because of my OC-ing.

    That might be because I try to be polite when I am out in public. I dress in clean clothes, try not to let anyone but my immediate companions hear me if my words are less than suitable for public consumption, and generally go about my business as if wearing a gun on my side were no more unusual than wearing pants would be.

    stay safe.

    skidmark
    "He'll regret it to his dying day....if ever he lives that long."----The Quiet Man

    Because stupidity isn't a race, and everybody can win.

    "No matter how much contempt you have for the media in all this, you don't have enough"
    ----Allahpundit

  11. #11
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Secretary MOC, Inc. Frankenmuth, , USA
    Posts
    894

    Post imported post

    skidmark wrote:
    "Discreet OC"? "Partially hidden OC"? Perhaps you refer to the Virginia folks who can legally OC with an IWB holster as long as the grip is clearly visible?

    There are times when I purposely OC using a holster that stands out, and have a handgun with highly noticable stocks (ivory or exotic woods, not Blaze Orange) for the purpose of calling attention to my rig.

    Being single, I do not have family to use as a visual distraction from my OC status.

    So far I have not been asked to leave a business location because of my OC-ing. So far I have not had a negative encounter with law enforcement because of my OC-ing.

    That might be because I try to be polite when I am out in public. I dress in clean clothes, try not to let anyone but my immediate companions hear me if my words are less than suitable for public consumption, and generally go about my business as if wearing a gun on my side were no more unusual than wearing pants would be.

    stay safe.

    skidmark
    Ah yes, I forgot to mention something. When I OC, I carry my XD Gear double mag pouch with two shiny silver mags sticking out. I've noticed this draws a lot of attention to my belt.

  12. #12
    Regular Member jbone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    2,241

    Post imported post

    wrote:
    I heard that if you are carrying a baby and are dressed nicely, you'll have an easy time of it.... (no kidding about the baby!)
    “By George I think you got it” eddified

    Going into the daycare business is the ticket. Could have the parents drop off at the front door and have the OC'ers pick up at the back door, all children must be returned by 1500. Have parent consent and cut them in on say, 5% of the “OC a Baby” charge



    Don’t think this business plan would be received well with any lenders, but you got to wonder! eddified go for it!
    Im proudly straight. I'm free to not support Legalization, GLBT, Illegal Aliens, or the Islamization of America.

  13. #13
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lehi, Utah, USA
    Posts
    47

    Post imported post

    LOL!

    No, I have my own kids to use for my nefarious OC purposes ... j/k.

    I have a 2.5 year old and an 8 month old. Both boys.

  14. #14
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Epsom, New Hampshire, USA
    Posts
    149

    Post imported post

    like most have said here..dress neatly and be polite..

    i have no kids,i don't dress up(except weddings and funerals) and i basically run around in jean shorts and T-shirts.at times i wear colors that match both holster and gun so it's hard to see but i try to contrast so it's visable...still no comments (pos or neg) and haven't been asked to leave(will have to visit walmart to see what happens)

  15. #15
    Activist Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Reno, Nevada, USA
    Posts
    1,713

    Post imported post

    When I carry my Chihuahua into dog friendly establishments, nobody ever seems to notice my gun.

  16. #16
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV, ,
    Posts
    433

    Post imported post

    I agree with the dress and demeanor about 75%. When i OC around the Vegas area - for the most part i am in my work cloths (biz casual), but i also OC in my cargo shorts and plain white tshirt and sneakers. I know more attention is drawn when i am in lounge wear then when i dress biz casual, but my attitude and demeanor is also important. I am 27, look young, but not like a punk.

    Most of the OCers i see around here are well kept and dress nice, hence the reason why they aren't bothered. I am sure if they looked like the latest rap star, they would get flack more from stores and LEO.

  17. #17
    Campaign Veteran deepdiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Southeast, Missouri, USA
    Posts
    5,974

    Post imported post

    I'm almost 40, generally have my hair pretty short, enough so that I have been asked several times if I am military and a few times if I am a cop, and clean shaved. Unwanted attention doesn't seem to be dependent upon what I am wearing. Even when dressed down I rarely am untucked though (unless I need to for CC). I don't like wearing untucked shirts. I think the lack of attention is more my age and bearing than anything else. I am pretty casual about carrying (not sloppy or careless) and make no bigger deal about it or draw more attention to it than I do to my cell phone.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

  18. #18
    Campaign Veteran skidmark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    North Chesterfield VA
    Posts
    10,682

    Post imported post

    nh92d wrote:
    like most have said here..dress neatly and be polite..

    i have no kids,i don't dress up(except weddings and funerals) and i basically run around in jean shorts and T-shirts.at times i wear colors that match both holster and gun so it's hard to see but i try to contrast so it's visable...still no comments (pos or neg) and haven't been asked to leave(will have to visit walmart to see what happens)
    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...30-post50.html

    Too bad they did away with stop #1 - no nachos for you!

    stay safe.

    skidmart
    "He'll regret it to his dying day....if ever he lives that long."----The Quiet Man

    Because stupidity isn't a race, and everybody can win.

    "No matter how much contempt you have for the media in all this, you don't have enough"
    ----Allahpundit

  19. #19
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Catasauqua, Pennsylvania, USA
    Posts
    3,047

    Post imported post

    Felid`Maximus wrote:
    When I carry my Chihuahua into dog friendly establishments, nobody ever seems to notice my gun.
    What kind of retention do you use when you carry your Chihuahua?

    You know, to prevent against Chihuahua grabs, and to make sure your Chihuahua doesn't accidentally "go off"...

  20. #20
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Queen Creek, Arizona, USA
    Posts
    7

    Post imported post

    I wear whatever I would normally wear. In the winter, jeans, T-shirt and jacket. Summertime, I wear shorts, T-shirt, flip-flops. Winter I carry in a belt holster, and in the summer I carry in a shoulder rig.



    If you act like you belong, nobody even gives you a second glance.

  21. #21
    Campaign Veteran
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Maricopa, Arizona, USA
    Posts
    204

    Post imported post

    imperialism2024 wrote:
    Felid`Maximus wrote:
    When I carry my Chihuahua into dog friendly establishments, nobody ever seems to notice my gun.*
    What kind of retention do you use when you carry your Chihuahua?

    You know, to prevent against Chihuahua grabs, and to make sure your Chihuahua doesn't accidentally "go off"...
    You must be very secure in your masculinity. I still pack a Pitbull when I go out. My wife says I am over compensating for something, so I grab the Spaniel insted.:celebrate Sorry I could not resist.

  22. #22
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Hodgenville, Kentucky, USA
    Posts
    1,261

    Post imported post

    I'm 66 years old and look mean. I dress casual....black jeans and short sleeved shirt. I've had ONE person comment on my Glock....she said it looked real.

  23. #23
    Regular Member pro2A's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Greencastle, Pennsylvania, United States
    Posts
    76

    Post imported post

    eddified wrote:
    I'd like for those of you who don't have negative encounters with businesses or LEOs to please tell me what you believe it is about you that keeps you from having LEO encounters, and what keeps you from being asked to leave.

    I heard that if you are carrying a baby and are dressed nicely, you'll have an easy time of it.... (no kidding about the baby!)

    Are there any other good tips out there for discreet OC?

    Also, does discreet OC often mean "partially hidden" OC? If so, how hidden?
    Where I don't think it hurts to dress nice and act polite, it certainly doesn't help if you dress like a slob, don't shave and stink if you open carry. If I OC I tend to dress nicer then normal.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •