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    The law says
    Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business, a person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his or her person without a license to carry a concealed pistol.
    but what counts as concealed? Is it concealed if it's in a IWB holster and the grip is exposed? What about a flap holster? A safepacker?

    I'm visiting WA for Labor Day and I want to obey the open carry law.

    What's the difference between 9.41.050 and 9.41.250 for pistols?

    What do you do when it's raining?

    Thank you :celebrate much!





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    IWB is no different than OWB as the same amount of the gun is showing. You can't coveryour weaponwith clothing, otherwise you are go to go. Rain???? It doesn't rain here. If it did, we would just get wet.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    You can't coveryour weaponwith clothing, otherwise you are go to go.
    Is a full flap holster or a safepacker is allowed? A gunny pack?

    Does it matter if I'm out hiking in the woods vs in town?

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    sandcastle wrote:
    Is a full flap holster or a safepacker is allowed? A gunny pack?

    Does it matter if I'm out hiking in the woods vs in town?

    Thank you.


    A safe packer or fanny pack (assuming that is what you mean by "gunny" pack) would be considered concealed.

    Full flap would be a little more open to interpretatoin I think. If it was clearly a holster and exposed, I would consider it OC. I am not a cop tho'. If there was not enough "gun" showing to be recognizable as a gun, you may be in trouble.

    No clear legal definition that I have ever heard.

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    sandcastle wrote:
    What do you do when it's raining?
    It never rains in Washington; not that I have noticed it penetrating the moss on my back anyway.

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    sandcastle wrote:
    The law says
    What do you do when it's raining?

    Thank you :celebrate much!



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    sandcastle wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    You can't coveryour weaponwith clothing, otherwise you are go to go.
    Is a full flap holster or a safepacker is allowed? A gunny pack?

    Does it matter if I'm out hiking in the woods vs in town?

    Thank you.


    Hiking is a listed exception in 9.41.060 so you are OK while you are hiking and going to and from hiking. If you are just day hiking and are carrying no hiking gear with you then I would definately keep it unloded in the car. If you are backpack hiking then technically you could have it loaded in the car according to 9.41.060.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    hope your bringing stainless steel gun.

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    He could always wrap it in a pastic bag like Stallone did at the end of Nighthawks.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

    "though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for I know that you are by my side" Glock 23:40

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    that would require a wig and robe. :shock:

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    Thank you for the responses. I'll stay away from the gray areas and use a normal holster.





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    Triple Tap wrote:
    hope your bringing stainless steel gun.
    I heard Glocks are waterproof.

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    sandcastle wrote:
    Triple Tap wrote:
    hope your bringing stainless steel gun.
    I heard Glocks are waterproof.
    Wait until you have to do an armorers inspection on one carried in the rain!


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    maclean wrote:
    Wait until you have to do an armorers inspection on one carried in the rain!
    *chuckle* Definitely not waterproof, but the majority of the gun is water resistant. There are stainless parts that will rust with enough 'wear and tear', such as the recoil spring, the slide release and the sights.

    Otherwise, they are fairly good when it comes to rust; judge for yourself: Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com
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    sandcastle wrote:
    What do you do when it's raining?
    I stay in the house and read OCDO.
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