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    “[Assistant Police Chief Peter J.] Newsham said if anyone shows up to register a semiautomatic pistol that fits the city's definition of a machine gun, police will confiscate the gun but will not immediately arrest the owner. But he said police reserve the right to investigate and eventually file charges.” Paul Duggan, Gun Registrations Off To Slow Start in D.C., Washington Post, B01, July 18, 2008, available at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071700621.html?sid=ST2008071702695&pos=.

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    Fits my definition of a Police State!

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    i am so surprised American's tolerate this from their govt. society has become soooooo complacent.

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    Well most Americans don't tolerate it. Hence the reason you'll see a lot of "I'll never go through *insert anti-gun state/territory*." You also see headlines when someone is OCing and is stopped for no reason, like in Pennsylvania. I think the general idea is that the sheeple stay in places like DC, NY, and CA while the people who want to be free move to other places and exercise their freedom. It's sad that we don't stage a 'million armed-citizen march'. We'd all be branded criminals at that point and they'd probably call in the national guard. People aren't going to protest since the ones in those places share the sheeple mentality and the people not in those places have their rights.

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    So much for the right not to be denied life, liberty, or property without due process, and the right to a speedy trial, apart from the 2A considerations. Looks like they have no regard for any of the amendments. Why not quarter troops at Heller's place while they're at it? They can violate posse comitatus also by making sure he doesn't have any "machine guns."

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    N00blet45 wrote:
    Well most Americans don't tolerate it. Hence the reason you'll see a lot of "I'll never go through *insert anti-gun state/territory*." You also see headlines when someone is OCing and is stopped for no reason, like in Pennsylvania. I think the general idea is that the sheeple stay in places like DC, NY, and CA while the people who want to be free move to other places and exercise their freedom. It's sad that we don't stage a 'million armed-citizen march'. We'd all be branded criminals at that point and they'd probably call in the national guard. People aren't going to protest since the ones in those places share the sheeple mentality and the people not in those places have their rights.
    those you talk about are still a small percentage of the overall population. If most Americans were truly like you say, the east and west coasts would be uninhabited, but people get lazy, apathetic and complacent and they just sit and take it. most do not even know their own rights or think there is a way out.

    if Americans would stand up and protest and organize like the leftists do for every cause, i am sure it would be different.

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    So when is the 'million armed-citizen march'? I need to plan vacation, get one of those chrome AK's, stuff like that.

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    it would nice to have something like or similar to that happen in this country. to bad pro-american protests and gathering never garner the same media coverage as anti-war and pro-abortion protests.

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    What semi-automatic pistols do NOT fit their definition of machine gun?
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    You can almost smell those new "$20.00's" coming off the press! I don't want my tax money going for any "BAIL OUT" for D.C.-this needs to come out of the pockets of the "LAME BRAINS" that got this mess on the books! Don't think that the Chief of Police in D.C. should even be considered for "DOG CATCHER"!

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    deepdiver wrote:
    What semi-automatic pistols do NOT fit their definition of machine gun?
    ALL semi-automatic pistols fit their definition of machine gun. Anything which has a detachable magazine fits their definition (as I understand it), because a magazine for any semi-automatic pistol could potentially be manufactured that holds more than eleven rounds. If that potential exists, its a machine gun per DC.

    If I am incorrect in this, I'm sure someone will correct me.
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    falcon1 wrote:
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    What semi-automatic pistols do NOT fit their definition of machine gun?
    ALL semi-automatic pistols fit their definition of machine gun. Anything which has a detachable magazine fits their definition (as I understand it), because a magazine for any semi-automatic pistol could potentially be manufactured that holds more than eleven rounds. If that potential exists, its a machine gun per DC.

    If I am incorrect in this, I'm sure someone will correct me.
    That's the way I read it, too. They also specifically ban semi-auto handguns, anyway. They also don't say anything about caliber so a Ruger 1022 is also a machine gun.

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    thorvaldr wrote:
    falcon1 wrote:
    deepdiver wrote:
    What semi-automatic pistols do NOT fit their definition of machine gun?
    ALL semi-automatic pistols fit their definition of machine gun. Anything which has a detachable magazine fits their definition (as I understand it), because a magazine for any semi-automatic pistol could potentially be manufactured that holds more than eleven rounds. If that potential exists, its a machine gun per DC.

    If I am incorrect in this, I'm sure someone will correct me.
    That's the way I read it, too. They also specifically ban semi-auto handguns, anyway. They also don't say anything about caliber so a Ruger 1022 is also a machine gun.
    Laff, that was my point.

    I seem to remember reading about some old, early semi-auto pistols that had internal mags, or perhaps those were just one off prototypes.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Things like this are why our militia rights are preserved. I remember reading somwhere and order for militia to seize the capitol if things got this out of hand i might be wrong but I do belive it's somwhere in the constitution I cameover it a couple years ago and found it interesting.

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    The District of Corruption is an abomination and an insult to America, liberty and freedom. I will cheer, laugh and raise a toast the day it is dissolved.

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    Simply arbitrary rules meant tocontrol others. Really, gun control means people control. Listen to Citizen X's ideas about gun control on Liberty Radio Underground. I recommend the podcast.

    http://media.switchpod.com/users/citizenx/Episode11.mp3

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    It's nice to see that they have an unlimited budget for settlements and judgements arising out of their unconstitutional and criminal actions... No, wait. They DON'T.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    Deanimator wrote:
    It's nice to see that they have an unlimited budget for settlements and judgements arising out of their unconstitutional and criminal actions... No, wait. They DON'T.
    They have a budget as large as the amount they can confiscate from the citizens
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    deepdiver wrote:
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    It's nice to see that they have an unlimited budget for settlements and judgements arising out of their unconstitutional and criminal actions... No, wait. They DON'T.
    They have a budget as large as the amount they can confiscate from the citizens
    That's bad news for them. There aren't that many of them, and a lot of them don't pay taxes.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    thorvaldr wrote:
    So when is the 'million armed-citizen march'? I need to plan vacation, get one of those chrome AK's, stuff like that.
    We really do need to have an ARMED rally on the steps of the local DC gov. About a million of us... There's no way they could deal with that... AND DEMAND REDRESS


    I WILL go with lots of other gun owners all packing all OC, wouln't do it by myself though... end up in the clink forever that way.
    And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants"

    Thomas Jefferson in a letter to William S. Smith in 1787. Taken from Jefferson, On Democracy 20, S. Padover ed., 1939

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    I don't trust that the federal gov't wouldn't use military troops to "protect" the capital if we did that.

    There is precedent for that. They did it to the "Bonus Army" in 1932.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_army
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    The Bonus Army had nothing better than pocket knives with which to protect themselves....

    We'd be SOMEWHAT better off...

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    Internal magazines?

    Mauser C-96 (broomhandle) was one of those... That's 1896! Full auto versions too... Whoo-hoo!

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