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    Orwellian scheme - federal law bars DC residents from buying handguns in other states; DC refuses to allow gun dealers in City!

    See WTOP's Mark Segrave's blog as his gun buying odessey continues:http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=695&sid=latest

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    "Vince Gray (D-At-Large), chairman of the D.C. Council, says he wants to make it as hard as possible for gun stores to open. "First of all, I don't want them anywhere," Gray says, "but if we're going to have them, we'll look at things, like keeping them away from schools and churches."

    When the District first learned of the Supreme Court decision overturning the ban on handguns, Acting Attorney General, Peter Nickles, told reporters gun stores would be allowed to open in the city. "You can't very well stop someone from selling something that is legal to own," Nickles said.
    That opinion seems to have changed a bit. When Mayor Adrian Fenty announced the new gun regulations this week, he said stand-alone gun stores would not be allowed to open. "That's my understanding," Fenty said.
    Nickles told reporters that the law would not permit such stores, and that gun dealers would have to be part of a larger operation, such as a chain store that sells more than just guns. D.C. Councilmember Phil Mendelson (D-At-Large) says District code does not allow for the "display of guns in public."
    Nickles expects to be back in court over the new regulations, and he's giving lawyers plenty of options from the ban on semi-automatics, to the trigger lock requirements, and now an apparent prohibition on gun stores."

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    Maybe the voting citizens of DC will finally be emboldened by the Supreme Court ruling and will vote all of the jerk councilmen out of office. They do have the vote in DC don't they?

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    So it seems that the supreme court decision acomplished very little if people can't legally aquire handguns and can't obtain licenses and registrations for them. The people need to vote everyone of these jerks out of office.

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    I will be happy to see these tyrants dragged into court again to have a judge explain to them what the constitution is, why we have it and that they are in violation of it and the SCOTUS decision. I would prefer to see them impeached and then arrested and tried for their intentional and continued violations of citizen constitutional rights and whatever the charge would be for blatantly flaunting their middle finger extention to SCOTUS.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    deepdiver wrote:
    I will be happy to see these tyrants dragged into court again to have a judge explain to them what the constitution is, why we have it and that they are in violation of it and the SCOTUS decision. I would prefer to see them impeached and then arrested and tried for their intentional and continued violations of citizen constitutional rights and whatever the charge would be for blatantly flaunting their middle finger extention to SCOTUS.
    +1

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    Whether D.C. has gun stores or even a gun ban may be moot.



    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=4098
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    rodbender wrote:
    Whether D.C. has gun stores or even a gun ban may be moot.



    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=4098
    The article makes a good point. Some intend not to vote for McCain using the logic that Obama will make only 1 or 2 Supreme Court nominations that will likely replace liberals with liberals. Unfortunately, the chief flaw in this logic is that the next president will also appoint scores of bureaucrats and hundreds of district and appellate judges. When it comes down to it, McCains picks, individually and collectively, will bea million times better than Obama's.


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    One of the most dangerous bunch of bureaucrats are in the EPA. In the future, we are very likely to lose more of our rights and freedoms to EPA regulations than any other.

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    If they don't want stand-alone gun stores, I'd make a point of offering crack pipes and smut as well - see how they like literal applications of the law like that (well, the former mayor might like that anyway...).

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    DC loses their case on their gun ban and then enacts almost the exact same thing and what's going to happen, another lawsuit? These people need to be carted off to jail for "circumventing" (really it's more like violating) a court order.

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    N00blet45 wrote:
    DC loses their case on their gun ban and then enacts almost the exact same thing and what's going to happen, another lawsuit? These people need to be carted off to jail for "circumventing" (really it's more like violating) a court order.
    Tyranny!

    In The Federalist No. 47, James Madison offered the following definition: "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, selfappointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."

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    I agree about the EPA they are pretty bad, just look at some of the new motercycle regulations they are passing in CA.

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    deepdiver wrote:
    I will be happy to see these tyrants dragged into court again to have a judge explain to them what the constitution is, why we have it and that they are in violation of it and the SCOTUS decision. I would prefer to see them impeached and then arrested and tried for their intentional and continued violations of citizen constitutional rights and whatever the charge would be for blatantly flaunting their middle finger extention to SCOTUS.



    Couldn't agree more, deepdiver. The ONLY thing these arrogant tyrants will understand is being completely vanquished from their public offices followed by fines and jail time for blatantly breeching the Constitution (multiple ways), the Law, and the highest court in the land.

    They act as if they are Kings and Queens. Hmmm. Guess that attitude belies their Socialist 'We Know Better Than You' mentality...

    How much more greivance does it take to get these idiots INDICTED, on Federal charges?

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    bobcat wrote:

    How much more greivance does it take to get these idiots INDICTED, on Federal charges?
    Dunno, but I'd say there's already a slam dunk case for contempt of court...

    From the Opinion...

    "the District must permit Heller to register his handgun and
    must issue him a license to carry it in the home."



    Doesn't say _A_ handgun, it says _HIS_ handgun.


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    Teej wrote:
    bobcat wrote:

    How much more greivance does it take to get these idiots INDICTED, on Federal charges?
    Dunno, but I'd say there's already a slam dunk case for contempt of court...

    From the Opinion...

    "the District must permit Heller to register his handgun and
    must issue him a license to carry it in the home."



    Doesn't say _A_ handgun, it says _HIS_ handgun.
    Excellent point!! Actually, that is about as good a point as anyone could make on the matter. +10,000,000,000
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    The people need to vote everyone of these jerks out of office.
    I don't know how many people here live anywhere near DC, but I live pretty close and have done a lot of work there. I've met quite a few people from the district and most of them have the same mentality as the people on the city council. That's why they get voted back in time and time again. They voted a man in for mayor, then he got caught with an ex-girlfriendsmoking crack, then they voted him mayor AGAIN. Now hesits on the DC City Council and has had numerous run-ins with the law since being elected. And the people in DC LOVE HIM. I've worked with a few guys from DC while with the IBEW. Not one person had anything bad to say about Marion Barry. I'm not sure these people should be allowed to vote for their neighborhood watch coordinators, let alone the people who determine public policy.

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    beradcee wrote:
    massltca wrote:
    The people need to vote everyone of these jerks out of office.
    I don't know how many people here live anywhere near DC, but I live pretty close and have done a lot of work there. I've met quite a few people from the district and most of them have the same mentality as the people on the city council. That's why they get voted back in time and time again. They voted a man in for mayor, then he got caught with an ex-girlfriendsmoking crack, then they voted him mayor AGAIN. Now hesits on the DC City Council and has had numerous run-ins with the law since being elected. And the people in DC LOVE HIM. I've worked with a few guys from DC while with the IBEW. Not one person had anything bad to say about Marion Barry. I'm not sure these people should be allowed to vote for their neighborhood watch coordinators, let alone the people who determine public policy.
    I often wondered aboutwhat the citizens of D.C. thought about all of this. Unbelievable!

    My apologies to anyone offended by mypost before I edited it. Won't happen again. I should have known better.
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    beradcee wrote:
    massltca wrote:
    The people need to vote everyone of these jerks out of office.
    I don't know how many people here live anywhere near DC, but I live pretty close and have done a lot of work there. I've met quite a few people from the district and most of them have the same mentality as the people on the city council. That's why they get voted back in time and time again. They voted a man in for mayor, then he got caught with an ex-girlfriendsmoking crack, then they voted him mayor AGAIN. Now hesits on the DC City Council and has had numerous run-ins with the law since being elected. And the people in DC LOVE HIM. I've worked with a few guys from DC while with the IBEW. Not one person had anything bad to say about Marion Barry. I'm not sure these people should be allowed to vote for their neighborhood watch coordinators, let alone the people who determine public policy.
    That's one of the reasons why I left Massachusetts, it didn't matter who I voted for, the same liberals kept getting elected. At this point congress will have to strip the DC city council of their authority to regulate firearms. Otherwise what's to stop them from continuing to ignore the high courts' ruling. It seem to me that if the issue went back to court DC would simply ignore that too. Until someone is held accountable nothing will change.

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    Maybe someone should open the ultimate store in D.C. :

    Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms!!!!!

    Seriously, maybe we should petition either BassPro or Cabelas to open a store in D.C.?

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    If they don't want stand-alone gun stores, I'd make a point of offering crack pipes and smut as well - see how they like literal applications of the law like that (well, the former mayor might like that anyway...).

    LMAO

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    Talk talk talk...

    "When all else fails, vote from the rooftops."

    There isn't anything more America can do. A court order from the freakin' Supreme Court! There is NOTHING else!

    Remove them from office the same way we have removed tyrants and criminal governings of the past.

    It is time to roll in and take it back by force. All else has failed. Step up to your civic duties, or shut up and accept your Owners. I hate it when the only answer is right there, but good men still do nothing. If you're too 'reasonable' to DO anything, just shut the hell up and accept what you aren't willing to rectify.

    If you tollerate it, you deserve it.
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    i am sure that the vast majority of the citizens of D.C. have no problem with gun stores, or even gun owners. I t is the very small group of mostly thous that live out sideof D.C. that have the mayors ear.

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    If the DC government will not abide by the Constitution they should be impeached and removed from office... DC or anywhere else.

    Here's what Mayor Fenty (DC) said 'bout a half hour of the Supreme Courts decison:

    The Mayor, Attorney General and Chief emphasized that the Supreme Court’s ruling is limited and leaves intact various other laws that apply to private citizens who would purchase handguns or other firearms for home possession. First, all firearms must be registered with the Metropolitan Police Department’s Firearms Registration Section before they may be lawfully possessed. Second, automatic and semiautomatic handguns generally remain illegal and may not be registered. Third, the Supreme Court’s ruling is limited to handguns in the home (BS!) and does not entitle anyone to carry firearms outside his or her own home. (MORE BS!) In addition, although the Court struck the safe storage provision on the ground that it was too broadly written, firearms at home should be kept either unloaded and disassembled or else locked except for use in self-defense in emergencies.

    What part of 'SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED' don't they understand?


    “We will comply with the Court’s reading of the Second Amendment in its letter and spirit,” said Chief Lanier. (BS) “At the same time, we will continue vigorously enforcing the District’s other gun-control laws and are considering other ways to protect the District’s citizens against the scourge of gun violence.”
    Yeah... like they've doneTHAT for the past 30 some years...

    In other words... they do not intend to abide by the SC's decision and will continue to weasle any way they can. How many full auto handguns are there? C96 Mausers?


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    The battle of Athens, Tennesee is a good example of what needs to happen. All the veterens, and active duty soldiers who took an oath to protect the US from enemies foreign and domestic, and uphold the constitution of the US, need to march on "city hall" and remove those criminals from office, and install a temporary government for legislative maintinence only, untill new officials can be propertly elected.

    I'm not suggesting a "military coup", I am pointing out that the "negotiations" have failed, and its time to take a more active role in settling this dispute, through constitutionally suggested means.

    In other words, when words stop working, its time for a spanking. The DC gummament needs a good spanking.

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    Ya have 3 boxes... The 'soap box' (this being an example). The 'ballot box' which seems to have failed. And the 'cartridge box'. Your call!

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