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    Video of open carriers in Idaho state Washington has a ban on open carry. Look at map at end of video.:what:

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    ghosthunter wrote:
    Video of open carriers in Idaho state Washington has a ban on open carry. Look at map at end of video.:what:
    How about a link?

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
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    Video of open carriers in Idaho state Washington has a ban on open carry. Look at map at end of video.:what:
    How about a link?
    That would be nice

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    ghosthunter wrote:
    Video of open carriers in Idaho state Washington has a ban on open carry. Look at map at end of video.:what:
    Regardless of what they state, think, say or guess at, they don't know crap about it. Washington is an Open Carry State, which is fact that anything they say won't change that.

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    I am not the computer wiz that you guys are. Go to OpenCarry .org. its on the main page.

    I am not saying it right. I am saying that they are giving mis information.

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    I found the link to the Idaho Statesman easy enough.
    http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/447064.html

    I could not find a faulty map showing OC was banned in this state.

    Washington is marked "anamolous" because of license carry in a vehicle, and because some law enforcement agencies still haven't quite figured out the full facts about the legality of OC.

    To copy a link, highlight it in your address bar, then right click on it and choose "copy" then right click "paste" it in your message.

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    The only thing labled a video has a totally screw link that doesn't work and never will as it is. So they can't get the link right or the content if there is any.

    A computer whiz I'll never be, too old for one thing. I remember when my dad got one of the first pocket calculators that the phone company gave them. Big bucks and it added, subtracted, multiplied and divided and did square roots. Have been almost a week now getting the new desk top tower working and I still have another days worth of data to transfer from the old tower.

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    Thats the story not the video. I went to the national web page for opencarry.org

    There is a video screen on right with a women reporters face. Play the video. Athe end she shows a map of Washington in Read and Idaho in Yellow. She states that the yellow states alow open carry the read do not.





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    http://www.2news.tv/news/25651079.html

    It's not an OCDO map, and she said "opencarry.com" as opposed to "opencarry.org"

    Idiot.

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    ghosthunter wrote:
    Thats the story not the video. I went to the national web page for opencarry.org

    There is a video screen on right with a women reporters face. Play the video. Athe end she shows a map of Washington in Read and Idaho in Yellow. She states that the yellow states alow open carry the read do not.
    The word you're looking for is "RED" and WA is not colored red, even though the video makes it look that way. it's orange. Look closely at the color of Texas and at the color of WA... they're different; TX is a darker color, but only slightly. It's the quality of the video. She also said there were 6 (six) Red states... if we went by the logic that WA was red on that map, there'd be more like 15-20 states... not six.

    Honestly, I'm kind of pissed at the decision by the admins to color us "anomolous", as we're one of the more "open" OC states in the nation, yet we're second to worst on their rating scale. (Note, this is not me being pissed at the admins, this is me being pissed at the specific decision)
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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    http://www.2news.tv/news/25651079.html

    It's not an OCDO map, and she said "opencarry.com" as opposed to "opencarry.org"

    Idiot.
    I give up. Play the video and listen to what she said about the colors on the map

    You know I had a lot of respect for you up to the point where you are calling me a idiot because I do not have the computersmarts you have. I have enjoyed your posts and often saw you as a mediator. But you know this is exactly what the problem is on some of these posts. The intolerance of people for new comer's or folks who are not in your view up to your speed.

    If there is a moderator out there just do us all a favor and delete this thread.

    I am not interested in having it turn into another mud slinging match like some of the others.

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    ghosthunter wrote:
    sv_libertarian wrote:
    http://www.2news.tv/news/25651079.html

    It's not an OCDO map, and she said "opencarry.com" as opposed to "opencarry.org"

    Idiot.
    I give up. Play the video and listen to what she said about the colors on the map

    You know I had a lot of respect for you up to the point where you are calling me a idiot because I do not have the computersmarts you have. I have enjoyed your posts and often saw you as a mediator. But you know this is exactly what the problem is on some of these posts. The intolerance of people for new comer's or folks who are not in your view up to your speed.

    If there is a moderator out there just do us all a favor and delete this thread.

    I am not interested in having it turn into another mud slinging match like some of the others.
    Quit looking to be insulted. He was referring to her the reporter. She never said Washington was not an Open Carry State. Washington and Oregon are orange not RED.

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    ghosthunter wrote:
    sv_libertarian wrote:
    http://www.2news.tv/news/25651079.html

    It's not an OCDO map, and she said "opencarry.com" as opposed to "opencarry.org"

    Idiot.
    I give up. Play the video and listen to what she said about the colors on the map

    You know I had a lot of respect for you up to the point where you are calling me a idiot because I do not have the computersmarts you have. I have enjoyed your posts and often saw you as a mediator. But you know this is exactly what the problem is on some of these posts. The intolerance of people for new comer's or folks who are not in your view up to your speed.

    If there is a moderator out there just do us all a favor and delete this thread.

    I am not interested in having it turn into another mud slinging match like some of the others.
    I didn't call you an idiot. I called the so-called "reporter" an idiot. She has about as much journalism skill as my ingrown toenail.

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    Folks, ghosthunter knew it was in error, he put "mis-information about Washington" in the post's description. He didn't say the map was wrong, he was pointing out the voice over description on the news said RED = NO and he probably couldn't see the color on the screen image on the video.

    Hang in there ghosthunter, we still love 'ya.

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    just_a_car wrote:
    ghosthunter wrote:
    Thats the story not the video. I went to the national web page for opencarry.org

    There is a video screen on right with a women reporters face. Play the video. Athe end she shows a map of Washington in Read and Idaho in Yellow. She states that the yellow states alow open carry the read do not.
    The word you're looking for is "RED" and WA is not colored red, even though the video makes it look that way. it's orange. Look closely at the color of Texas and at the color of WA... they're different; TX is a darker color, but only slightly. It's the quality of the video. She also said there were 6 (six) Red states... if we went by the logic that WA was red on that map, there'd be more like 15-20 states... not six.

    Honestly, I'm kind of pissed at the decision by the admins to color us "anomolous", as we're one of the more "open" OC states in the nation, yet we're second to worst on their rating scale. (Note, this is not me being pissed at the admins, this is me being pissed at the specific decision)
    Thanks just a car. You are right. My mistake. Just a idiot mistake. Thank you again for sorting that out.

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    sv_libertarian wrote: [quote]ghosthunter wrote: [quote]sv_libertarian wrote: [quote]To sv_libertarian Iam sorry,I mis readyour post.

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    http://www.2news.tv/news/25651079.html

    It's not an OCDO map, and she said "opencarry.com" as opposed to "opencarry.org"

    Idiot.
    have you ever gone to opencarry.com???

    try it sometime, it is opencarry.org

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    SlacK wrote:
    have you ever gone to opencarry.com???

    try it sometime, it is opencarry.org
    I did. However you will notice the sight is advertised everywhere as opencarry.org. It was only smart to register all the opencarry.whatever domains.

    Officially this is OpenCarry.ORG not.COM. She should have been more accurate.

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    I found the link to the Idaho Statesman easy enough.
    http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/447064.html

    I could not find a faulty map showing OC was banned in this state.

    Washington is marked "anamolous" because of license carry in a vehicle, and because some law enforcement agencies still haven't quite figured out the full facts about the legality of OC.

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    I thought the lack of state premption for carry period was the reason...

    RCW 9.41.300;

    (2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:

    (a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others; and

    (b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:

    (i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or


    Cities, towns, counties and other municipalities can resrict carry. Thus, not anyone can OC in these places, however for most of usour CPLs take care of this issue.


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    Anyone else notice how it looks as though she is startled by the inserted pistol pic that come up on screen in the still shot? I posted a pic not a playable link...

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    I'm going to give a bit of a +1 to the anchor or her copy writer. At the intro, she states that the OCers had some other parents at the zoo "surprised". Not scared, not nervous, not concerned, but surprised which appears to be an accurate, non-emotional charged, non-judgmental way to phrase it.
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    tanman wrote:
    I thought the lack of state premption for carry period was the reason...

    RCW 9.41.300;

    (2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:

    (a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others; and

    (b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:

    (i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or


    Cities, towns, counties and other municipalities can resrict carry. Thus, not anyone can OC in these places, however for most of usour CPLs take care of this issue.
    Ok the discharge of firearms has to do with target shooting not carry. The convention center stuff is a minor issue. There is total state preemption. What you just cited is the most any lesser government in this state can regulate firearms on.

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    tanman wrote:
    sv_libertarian wrote:
    I found the link to the Idaho Statesman easy enough.
    http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/447064.html

    I could not find a faulty map showing OC was banned in this state.

    Washington is marked "anamolous" because of license carry in a vehicle, and because some law enforcement agencies still haven't quite figured out the full facts about the legality of OC.

    To copy a link, highlight it in your address bar, then right click on it and choose "copy" then right click "paste" it in your message.
    I thought the lack of state premption for carry period was the reason...

    RCW 9.41.300;

    (2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:

    (a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others; and

    (b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:

    (i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or


    Cities, towns, counties and other municipalities can resrict carry. Thus, not anyone can OC in these places, however for most of usour CPLs take care of this issue.
    No the cities, etc can not restrict carry. They can restrict the discharge not the carry as the Article1 section 24 say you get to carry. The way I read that is the convention center thing is that the local government can restrict OC unless you have a CPL, then you are free to carry.

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    SlacK wrote:
    sv_libertarian wrote:
    http://www.2news.tv/news/25651079.html

    It's not an OCDO map, and she said "opencarry.com" as opposed to "opencarry.org"

    Idiot.
    have you ever gone to opencarry.com???

    try it sometime, it is opencarry.org
    I know y'all adressed it, but I imediately typed in opencarry.com when the news report aired, and it does default to the correct site. It was a simple mistake. The important thing is the publicity. This story was picked up by the AP and went national and I have even heard international. This has sparked debates on blogs around the country. Visit the idaho posts for links. This group is already planning another event involving cleaning up a roadway next month.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    tanman wrote:
    sv_libertarian wrote:
    ...Washington is marked "anamolous" because of license carry in a vehicle, and because some law enforcement agencies still haven't quite figured out the full facts about the legality of OC...
    I thought the lack of state premption for carry period was the reason...

    RCW 9.41.300;

    ... (b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:

    (i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or


    Cities, towns, counties and other municipalities can resrict carry. Thus, not anyone can OC in these places, however for most of usour CPLs take care of this issue.
    No the cities, etc can not restrict carry. They can restrict the discharge not the carry as the Article1 section 24 say you get to carry. The way I read that is the convention center thing is that the local government can restrict OC unless you have a CPL, then you are free to carry.
    Exactly- they can restrict OC more than the state, thus there is not total state preemption. I'm not saying SV_libertarian is wrong- just bringing up an issue most of us that have CPL's don't consider and that OCDO and visitors to our fair state do.

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