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Community Turns Out to Observe Open Carry Rally in Hastings, Michigan Thursday, July 24

SkipCoryell

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UPDATE:

Channel 3 article and video:

http://www.wwmt.com/news/hastings_1351572___article.html/guns_banded.html


Video: http://www.wwmt.com/video/index.php?bcpid=1111405973&bclid=1137706675&bctid=1688292702& http://www.wwmt.com

Channel 8: http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8733074

MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25841132

Detroit Free Press: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008807250352

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I just received this from Dave STevens in Barry County MI and thought I'd pass it on.
I'll be there with a good attitude and a S&W in 40 caliber.
Hope to see others from this forum there as well.

God bless

Skip Coryell

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[align=center]Press Release – For Immediate Distribution[/align]
In response to the Police Chief of Hastings, Chief Sarver, law-abiding
citizens will be walking down Main Street in Hastings open carrying.
Chief Sarver in response to a letter to the editor responded by saying it was
brandishing, a misdemeanor. He failed to say that the Michigan Attorney
General’s office wrote him telling him that open carry is not against the law. We are asking anyone who is interested in furthering their Second
Amendment rights to join us on Thursday, July 24th at 4 PM. We will be
meeting at Richie's Coffee Shop (146 W. State Street, Hastings, MI 49058).
An attorney that supports your right to keep and bear arms will be joining us.

It is important to note that this is a peaceful demonstration of our constitutional rights and everyone must be on their best behavior. All well mannered, law-abiding citizens are welcome to join us. Please RSVP if you can. Please do not dress like a paramilitary organization. Wear ordinary clothing that fits in well with the general public.

If you have any questions you can contact me at dstevens@iserv.net.

David Stevens
Barry County Citizens for Second Amendment and Firearm Rights (B-SAFR)
 

SpringerXDacp

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SkipCoryell wrote:
I just received this from Dave STevens in Barry County MI and thought I'd pass it on.
I'll be there with a good attitude and a S&W in 40 caliber.
Hope to see others from this forum there as well.

God bless

Skip Coryell

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[align=center]Press Release – For Immediate Distribution[/align]
In response to the Police Chief of Hastings, Chief Sarver, law-abiding
citizens will be walking down Main Street in Hastings open carrying.
Chief Sarver in response to a letter to the editor responded by saying it was
brandishing, a misdemeanor. He failed to say that the Michigan Attorney
General’s office wrote him telling him that open carry is not against the law. We are asking anyone who is interested in furthering their Second
Amendment rights to join us on Thursday, July 24th at 4 PM. We will be
meeting at Richie's Coffee Shop (146 W. State Street, Hastings, MI 49058).
An attorney that supports your right to keep and bear arms will be joining us.

It is important to note that this is a peaceful demonstration of our constitutional rights and everyone must be on their best behavior. All well mannered, law-abiding citizens are welcome to join us. Please RSVP if you can. Please do not dress like a paramilitary organization. Wear ordinary clothing that fits in well with the general public.

If you have any questions you can contact me at dstevens@iserv.net.

David Stevens
Barry County Citizens for Second Amendment and Firearm Rights (B-SAFR)

Welcome to OCDO Skip. (Hastings link)

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/13910.html
 

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Good luck and God Bless.


EDIT: Rember that a polite attitude and a good smile is a strong mark of confidence for all of our cause. Be friendly and bring some folks to us.
 

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I've a change in plans, and right now things are kind of "up in the air".

If anyone is going down to this and would like to have a rider along who is willing to share gas money, let me know.
 

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Easy there DopaVash, my comment was tied to this, from above:

[align=center]Press Release – For Immediate Distribution[/align]
In response to the Police Chief of Hastings, Chief Sarver, law-abiding
citizens will be walking down Main Street in Hastings open carrying.
Chief Sarver in response to a letter to the editor responded by saying it was
brandishing, a misdemeanor.

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Now, my comment was to show that, by very definition, that merely having a firearm on your person, in a holster, is NOT brandishing. I did not pull those points together when I posted yesterday, my mistake.

As a gun owner, a CHL holder, a citizen of a state which does have OC, a NRA member, and one who supports the CHL/OC movement across our nation, rest assured I support Texas in its movement toward what can only be referred to as the commonsense extension of self defense, that being open carry.
 

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I was there, I wore a replica black powder pistol, and I had an absolutly great experience.

I am very new to this org and will plan to read and write more in the future.
I guess i did not clarify what I wore. I was carrying a replica black powder 2-shot (over/under) derringer. It is a disabled weapon with no firing pin or cap and is not even considered a firearm under the law. My husband and I own it together since it is a 'curio' and not a firearm subject to owning with a permint.

I was there to make the statement that women need to protect themselves also and not rely on anyone else to protect them.
 

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Overwhelmed wrote:
I was there, I wore a replica black powder pistol, and I had an absolutly great experience.

I am very new to this org and will plan to read and write more in the future.
I guess i did not clarify what I wore. I was carrying a replica black powder 2-shot (over/under) derringer. It is a disabled weapon with no firing pin or cap and is not even considered a firearm under the law. My husband and I own it together since it is a 'curio' and not a firearm subject to owning with a permint.

I was there to make the statement that women need to protect themselves also and not rely on anyone else to protect them.
Welcome to OCDO Overwhelmed and Skip!
 

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The Detroit Free Press and MSP are not entirely correct:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008807250352


Rules for gun toting

Legal: Carrying a gun openly in most public places.
Correct.

Illegal: Carrying a gun into a church, bank, court, theater, sports arena, day care center, hospital or bar.

Correct, if you're concealing. Incorrect, if you're open carrying with CPL (except court room). This is a bad message to send. The anti observes OCer in bank, for example,and places the MWAG call.

Illegal: Brandishing a gun, defined as waving or pointing menacingly.

Correct.

They can't do it: Local governments can't enact laws prohibiting carrying guns openly.

Correct.

Hidden: A county-issued permit is required to carry a concealed weapon.

Correct, if carrying outside of your property.

Driving: If you're driving, you must take the holster off and store the gun unloaded in a trunk or far from an easy grab away.

Correct, only if you don't have a CPL. If, for example, an antiobserves an OCer getting into his/her vehicle, they will assume it's illegal...MWAG call.

Handguns vs. long guns (rifles/shotguns): The Michigan State Police say you can carry a long gun or a handgun as long as you're not brandishing it.

Correct.

Private property: Businesses or individuals can set their own rules about carrying a gun, openly or concealed, on their own property.

Correct.

Source: Michigan State Police
 

SkipCoryell

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Mike wrote:
OK, and great job inviting disabaled Americans! They of all people need the right to open carry.

Actually, Dave Neeson (in the wheelchair) is a long-time activist friend of mine. Dave is always on the front lines with me, no matter what I'm doing. There is a picture of him in my book (Blood in the Streets: Concealed Carry and the OK Corral) holding my baby.

Dave's a good man. Actually, we didn't plan to put him up front. He's just a natural. born leader, so he got there first.

Skip
 

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Fellow open carriers,
The event was a smashing success, even according to the media. Channel 3 (Kazoo) channel 8 (GR) and the Detroit Free Press were all there. There was no real negative press coverage. Detroit Free Press http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080725/NEWS06/80725035
Here's the News 3 Kazoo coverage.

http://www.wwmt.com/ Here's channel 8 in GR. http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8733074
There were a few anti's outside but I don't think they were even given coverage. They said a few mean things but we ignored them. There were over 40 people there, most of them openly carrying. A good mix of men, women, and children. Most of the general public lined the streets and watched us march down the sidewalk. Many of them were taking pictures like they'd never seen a free person before. The speech went well and the anti-gun Police Chief never showed his face. In fact, in a town crawling with city, state and county cops, there was an unusual absence of law enforcement. I found out later that the County Prosecutor (one of my former CPL students) had called the Chief and greased the skids for us. I am proud to announce that the City of Hastings, which once passed a city ordinance against CPL holders, is now safe for open carry. I'll be carrying openly in Barry county more often now, especially in the city. It was really quite fun. I felt more like a free man and less like a criminal with something to hide. Will be writing articles about it soon for opencarry.org, http://www.tednugent.com, and http://www.mcrgo.org plus a few others.
Skip
P.S. You may contact me personally at either of these websites.
http://http://www.mwtac.com
http://http://www.whitefeatherpress.com
 

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Congratulations on the event's success. It's always gratifying to see that sanity and rationality can win out, when well-mannered and upstanding citizens come together to achieve it.
 
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