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Who Is Voting Armed?

cato

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mjones wrote:
Its illegal in CA (corrections welcome)

http://leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=82341710038+15+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

CALIFORNIA CODES
ELECTIONS CODE

18544. (a) Any person in possession of a firearm or any uniformed
peace officer, private guard, or security personnel or any person who
is wearing a uniform of a peace officer, guard, or security
personnel, who is stationed in the immediate vicinity of, or posted
at, a polling place without written authorization of the appropriate
city or county elections official is punishable by a fine not
exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), by imprisonment in the
state prison for 16 months or two or three years or in a county jail
not exceeding one year, or by both the fine and imprisonment.
(b) This section shall not apply to any of the following:
(1) An unarmed uniformed guard or security personnel who is at the
polling place to cast his or her vote.
(2) A peace officer who is conducting official business in the
course of his or her public employment or who is at the polling place
to cast his or her vote.
(3) A private guard or security personnel hired or arranged for by
a city or county elections official.
(4) A private guard or security personnel hired or arranged for by
the owner or manager of the facility or property in which the
polling place is located if the guard or security personnel is not
hired or arranged solely for the day on which an election is held.
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You as a voter can carry a firearm at a polling place generally.



Lets break this down into it's elements that we care about:


18544. (a) Any person in possession of a firearm...

who is stationed in the immediate vicinity of, or posted
at, a polling place without written authorization of the appropriate
city or county elections official is punishable by...(a felony)
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so if you are not stationed or posted...voting armed is NO CRIME in Ca (provided possession is otherwise lawful - ie: not in a government building or school zone etc...).

Hmmm...is 171b in effect at all polling places?
 
zoom6zoom

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I did... today!
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UTOC-45-44 wrote:
This will be my 1st Presidential Vote. I became a U.S Citizen back in January this year. I went OCing voting for my Congress man.

At the voting location after I voted a lady asked me why I had the sidearm. I simply stated "-So that I can protect you when you don't have the chance to". I got the thumbs up and "-Thank you"
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TJ, Welcome to the USA and "Thank You"
 
Decoligny

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I did.

Sat here at my desk and filled out my absentee ballot with a 9mm on my side.

Drove to the mailbox and dropped it in with a 9mm on my side.

Drove home with a 9mm on my side.
 
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I did. I voted absentee this year. I was armed the whole time.

But even when I go to the polls, I always carry, even in the elementary school where the precinct polling place is. Perfectly legal (with my CCW permit). I love Utah!
 
lockman

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Doug Huffman wrote:
No one in South Carolina.

http://www.scstatehouse.net/code/t23c031.htm

(M) A permit issued pursuant to this section does not authorize a permit holder to carry a concealable weapon into a:
(1) police, sheriff, or highway patrol station or any other law enforcement office or facility;
(2) detention facility, prison, or jail or any other correctional facility or office;
(3) courthouse or courtroom;
(4) polling place on election days;
(5) office of or the business meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special purpose district;
(6) school or college athletic event not related to firearms;
(7) daycare facility or pre-school facility;
(8) place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law;
(9) church or other established religious sanctuary unless express permission is given by the appropriate church official or governing body; or
(10) hospital, medical clinic, doctor's office, or any other facility where medical services or procedures are performed unless expressly authorized by the employer.
A person who wilfully violates a provision of this subsection is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than one year, or both, at the discretion of the court and have his permit revoked for five years.
Nothing contained herein may be construed to alter or affect the provisions of Sections 10-11-320, 16-23-420, 16-23-430, 16-23-465, 44-23-1080, 44-52-165, 50-9-830, and 51-3-145.
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Based on the wording you can go armed to the polling pace for early voting because it would not be a "election day".
 
Sonora Rebel

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No. Weap0ns are forbidden in polling places in AZ. Ennyhoo... why would I want'a?

I carry for self defense... nuthin' else. Besides... it's inna church.


I like the 'I Voted' sticker on the holster idea tho... 'Gonna do that.
 
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Based on the wording you can go armed to the polling pace for early voting because it would not be a "election day".
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I imagine they would consider any day there are polls open at the polling place an "election day". The law is probably worded that way to ensure that you can carry when polling is not going on, such as at my polling place, which is also a church.
 
Flintlock

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Felid`Maximus wrote:
The problem where I live is that votes are usually held in K-12 Schools.
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Same here.

Nothing like sacrificing one right to be able to exercise another... :banghead:
 
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UTOC-45-44 wrote:
I will:celebrate

This will be my 1st Presidential Vote. I became a U.S Citizen back in January this year. I went OCing voting for my Congress man.:celebrate

At the voting location after I voted a lady asked me why I had the sidearm. I simply stated "-So that I can protect you when you don't have the chance to". I got the thumbs up and "-Thank you"

You just gotta love Utah and the US:celebrate

TJ
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Congrats! My hat goes off to you!
 
Sonora Rebel

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GaGunOwner wrote:
Sonora Rebel wrote:
No. Weap0ns are forbidden in polling places in AZ. Ennyhoo... why would I want'a?

I carry for self defense... nuthin' else. Besides... it's inna church.


I like the 'I Voted' sticker on the holster idea tho... 'Gonna do that.
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1) Crimes can occur at the voting precint on election day.

2) Crimes can occur in churches.

3) Why should I be stripped of one right to excercise another?

There aren't magic force-fields around these locations. That's why I would "want'a."
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Uh... CARRYING in polling places is a CRIME (here). I'll leave it in the truck.
 
Sonora Rebel

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I don't see any 'need' to carry a gun into the polling place. Not here anyway. (This is an unincorporated 'Open Range' area in the desert. I realize it's difficult for 'Back Easterners' to visualize whatthe high plains SW Sonora desert looks like... but it ain't 'the movies'... Google "Saguero National Park (west)" 'n take a look at my neighborhood. It ain't Columbus.... or Powder Springs... I'm even further west of the 'park' area. People talk about 'headin' for the hills' if the SHTF... Heh... This 'is' the hills.
 
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