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    The government is looking out for me, keeping me safe. Today if I go to the gun store and attempt to purchase a pistol, I will be unable to. Instead I can respond to an add from a private seller, or go to a gun show where I am sure to find some. If I then wanted to buy ammunition for that pistol, I again would be unable to. Of course if I wanted to buy the same ammunition for a carbine of the same caliper, that would not be an issue. But I do not have any carbines chambered in typical pistol calibers, so instead of buying ammunition, I make legal purchases of bullets, smokeless powder and primers and after a quick dig through a bucket at a range I can make my ammunition. If I proceeded to want to carry that pistol concealed, I would find myself unable to apply for the privilege of doing so. Instead, I must make sure that it is carried in full view (which I have no problems with). Of course 3 years and 1 day ago I was forced to submit my papers so I could be compelled by force to carry these very weapons which these ineffective legal measures attempt to keep me from possessing.

    But that is all over tomorrow. Tomorrow I become a more responsible person. Today I am an irresponsible child. The fact that I have a wife and four month old son who I am supporting without help from my parents or the government is irrelevant. The fact that I'm doing this while attending college to be able to provide even more than them is irrelevant. The fact that I have been forced to find alternatives to the legal annoyances that attempt to prevent me from being able to protect my family is irrelevant. I am not a full citizen today. Tomorrow I am. I am very curious as to what will happen at midnight, something in my brain or subconscious that now makes me responsible enough to be able to purchase my firearms and ammunition from any gun store. When the clerks office opens Monday, I will then be mature enough to apply for the privilege of carrying protection for my family discretely when doing so overtly is inappropriate or illegal.

    Thank goodness for my government looking out for me. Factory ammunition from a gun store must be much more dangerous than the ammunition that I reload myself. And a new pistol fresh from the gun store must be much more dangerous than a used one from a gun show. Carrying my pistol underneath my shirt requires a great deal more responsibility than putting it on my hip for the world to see.

    For most people the graduation from a second class citizen to being a full citizen with all the rights and privileges of other citizens is something to celebrate. In part, I am, but every time I think about it I have no choice but to think about the fact that I spent three needless years with as a second class citizen. Why we allow this to continue in America baffles me. Yes, statistically, people my age or younger are more irresponsible. But isn't grouping all of us together the very definition of prejudice? Could any state in the US refuse to issue concealed carry permits based on whether a persons race was statistically more likely to commit a crime? Could the access to self defense be denied to any other person simply because people who look like the applicant are irresponsible?

    A citizen is a citizen, and any citizen who is responsible enough to take on the job of helping to choose the leaders of the most influential country in the world must certainly be responsible enough to provide for their own defense. Maybe someday the rest of the country will realize this, until then, legal prejudice and discrimination is still every bit as protected in America as it was before the so called civil rights movement.

    But it's okay, it all changes tomorrow... for me.


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    Congrats on finally being old enough.

    Sorry to burst your persecution bubble, but I knew how to drive at 14andcouldn't get my license until 16. I enjoyed porn at 16, but couldn't even go into the adult store until I was 18. I knew how to drink and gamble responsiblyat 18 but couldn't do it legally until I was 21. I drive better than 90% of the morons on the road now, but I'm still waiting to turn 25 so I can rent a car.


    For every responsible, mature person out there there's 1,000 idiots. That's why the laws are the way they are. Stop whining about the laws and do something to change the proliferation of idiots in this country.

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    AWDstylez wrote:
    That's why the laws are the way they are. Stop whining about the laws and do something to change the proliferation of idiots in this country.
    That's not the way things work in this country. We don't say no Arabs allowed on airplanes until they do something about the terrorists.

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    AWDstylez wrote:
    Congrats on finally being old enough.

    Sorry to burst your persecution bubble, but I knew how to drive at 14andcouldn't get my license until 16. I enjoyed porn at 16, but couldn't even go into the adult store until I was 18. I knew how to drink and gamble responsiblyat 18 but couldn't do it legally until I was 21. I drive better than 90% of the morons on the road now, but I'm still waiting to turn 25 so I can rent a car.


    For every responsible, mature person out there there's 1,000 idiots. That's why the laws are the way they are. Stop whining about the laws and do something to change the proliferation of idiots in this country.
    :quirky:quirky:quirky

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    +1

    Very well written, asforme. Congrats on surviving for 21 years!

    ...But you still can't rent a car ...
    ...Orygunner...

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    Orygunner wrote:
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    Very well written, asforme. Congrats on surviving for 21 years!

    ...But you still can't rent a car ...
    ...Orygunner...
    My understanding is that's a policy of the business not the government. I see no injustice in a business insuring it's interests, what the government has done is instated a policy of prejudice and discrimination within the legal system.

    Oh, and I can rent a Uhaul, I've done it twice. I would think a car would significantly less dangerous.

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    And you have to look like you're over 40 to buy booze or cigarettes at Walmart now. Pretty soon, they'll be carding me! :celebrate
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    I've rented both a UHaul back when I was 19 and a car from Enterprise earlier this year shortly before turning 22. All depends on the company you rent from.

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    yeap, i rented serveral things from u-haul before i was 25. well before :P

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    Oh shutup and just grow up :P

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    A very good post, asforme, that perhaps only resonates with those in the ABNR (Adult, But Not Really) category. Given the responsibilities of life, but a limited set of tools with which to uphold them.


    On another note, I don't mean to dilute your post, but count your blessings that you still can purchase and carry firearms in an effective manner. Be glad that you do not live in a state where ABNRs cannot purchase handguns at all, period, and where open carry pretty much requires a license that is also unattainable until the same age.

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    AWDstylez wrote:
    Congrats on finally being old enough.

    Sorry to burst your persecution bubble, but I knew how to drive at 14andcouldn't get my license until 16. I enjoyed porn at 16, but couldn't even go into the adult store until I was 18. I knew how to drink and gamble responsiblyat 18 but couldn't do it legally until I was 21. I drive better than 90% of the morons on the road now, but I'm still waiting to turn 25 so I can rent a car.


    For every responsible, mature person out there there's 1,000 idiots. That's why the laws are the way they are. Stop whining about the laws and do something to change the proliferation of idiots in this country.
    Sigh... I can't afford that much ammo, even if I did reload...:P

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    PavePusher wrote:
    AWDstylez wrote:
    Congrats on finally being old enough.

    Sorry to burst your persecution bubble, but I knew how to drive at 14andcouldn't get my license until 16. I enjoyed porn at 16, but couldn't even go into the adult store until I was 18. I knew how to drink and gamble responsiblyat 18 but couldn't do it legally until I was 21. I drive better than 90% of the morons on the road now, but I'm still waiting to turn 25 so I can rent a car.


    For every responsible, mature person out there there's 1,000 idiots. That's why the laws are the way they are. Stop whining about the laws and do something to change the proliferation of idiots in this country.
    Sigh... I can't afford that much ammo, even if I did reload...:P


    hahahahhaha :celebrate

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    HAPPY BIRTHDAY asforme. :celebrate

    Well written short essay. I had similar thoughts at your age but I didn't express them as eloquently.
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    Happy birthday!

    Another vote for complimenting you on a well-written essay. Also a vote for urging you to submit it to your local newspaper as a Letter to the Editor.

    Are you going to be at the multi-state meet-up 9/13? I ask because I'd like to buy you a drink (probably soft, but it'll be your call). Look for Santa Claus with a gun and introduce yourself.

    stay safe.

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    My first post to say....Happy Birthday Son. Yes asforme is my son. Very well stated and is not whining. The one who accused that should know laws can't fix stupid. But it would help if we could keep idiots out positions of power.

    BTW I'll be OC and CC in Michigan. Thanks for the CCW class (Father;s Day gift)

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    Excellant well thought out post. You are to be commended.
    Obviously a lot of thought went into this before reducing it to print.
    That is something more of us here should do.

    Happy Birthday!

    +1 on buying you a drink at the multi-state meet up = 2 and counting

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    Foghorn wrote:
    My first post to say....Happy Birthday Son. Yes asforme is my son. Very well stated and is not whining. The one who accused that should know laws can't fix stupid. But it would help if we could keep idiots out positions of power.

    BTW I'll be OC and CC in Michigan. Thanks for the CCW class (Father;s Day gift)
    Welcome Foghorn - you did a good job! Salute!

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Foghorn wrote:
    My first post to say....Happy Birthday Son. Yes asforme is my son. Very well stated and is not whining. The one who accused that should know laws can't fix stupid. But it would help if we could keep idiots out positions of power.

    BTW I'll be OC and CC in Michigan. Thanks for the CCW class (Father;s Day gift)
    Welcome Foghorn - you did a good job! Salute!

    Yata hey
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    Foghorn wrote:
    My first post to say....Happy Birthday Son. Yes asforme is my son. Very well stated and is not whining. The one who accused that should know laws can't fix stupid. But it would help if we could keep idiots out positions of power.

    BTW I'll be OC and CC in Michigan. Thanks for the CCW class (Father;s Day gift)
    Don't you mean "Ah say, ah say boy, now lissen here!"

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    So you've crossed that big divide. No longer a "kid", eh? I would wager from the content and presentation of your OP, you were never really a "kid" of late.. rather an adult just waiting to happen.

    Congrats on your birthday and best of luck for your future!

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    Thanks everyone. I am tentatively planning to make it up to the multi-state event and look forward to meeting all of you.

    CHP paperwork set to go to the circuit court on Monday!:celebrate

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    Nevermind...

    asforme ( I fell silly calling you that) how's that new scawy looking rifle shoot?

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