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NC a Gold Star State?

Godscreation

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I am being serious now. What can we do to peacfully transform NC from a orange star state to a gold star state? I would really like to see this state get off the fence and be gold star state.

NC doesn't seem to have it's mind made up. We have preemption but in a way we don't, it's legal to open carry because we know there is no law against it, but nothing recognizes it, there is the possibility of having a spiderweb of complex places we can carry and can't carry; it's a big mess.:banghead:

How can we fix this? Mike, John, you guys listening? How did you do it in Virginia? I know Virginia was already more gun friendly than NC, but any advice? Any OCers of gold star states have tips?
 

dubccat51

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Gold star means that local governments can pass no ordinances that regulate the open carry of firearms and every single law that affects open carry is decided at the state level. The only reason that we are not a gold star state is becausecity and countygovernments may regulate the display of firearms on public streetsand sidewalks (such as the"reasonable regulation"on theopen carry of firearms under 6 inches in Chapel Hill) by ordinance and our preemption allows them to prohibit the posession of firearms on local government property. This is not going to change because the NC Supreme Court has said it is constitutional in State v. Fennell, unless the legislature takes these rights away from county and city governments by dropping the bold section of laws § 153A‑129, § 160A‑189 and § 14‑409.40 below.


§ 160A‑189. Firearms.

A city may by ordinance regulate, restrict, or prohibit the discharge of firearms at any time or place within the city except when used in defense of person or property or pursuant to lawful directions of law‑enforcement officers, and may regulate the display of firearms on the streets, sidewalks, alleys, or other public property. Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit a city's authority to take action under Article 36A of Chapter 14 of the General Statutes. (1971, c. 698, s. 1.)
§ 153A‑129. Firearms.

A county may by ordinance regulate, restrict, or prohibit the discharge of firearms at any time or place except when used to take birds or animals pursuant to Chapter 113, Subchapter IV, when used in defense of person or property, or when used pursuant to lawful directions of law‑enforcement officers. A county may also regulate the display of firearms on the public roads, sidewalks, alleys, or other public property. This section does not limit a county's authority to take action under Chapter 14, Article 36A. (1973, c. 822, s. 1; 2006‑264, s. 16.)
§ 14‑409.40. Statewide uniformity of local regulation.

f) Nothing contained in this section prohibits municipalities or counties from application of their authority under G.S. 153A‑129, 160A‑189, 14‑269, 14‑269.2, 14‑269.3, 14‑269.4, 14‑277.2, 14‑415.11, 14‑415.23, including prohibiting the possession of firearms in public‑owned buildings, on the grounds or parking areas of those buildings, or in public parks or recreation areas, except nothing in this subsection shall prohibit a person from storing a firearm within a motor vehicle while the vehicle is on these grounds or areas. Nothing contained in this section prohibits municipalities or counties from exercising powers provided by law in declared states of emergency under Article 36A of this Chapter.
 

Godscreation

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Could there be a petition of some sort that we could start that would let the gov. know we don't like this wishy washy preemption? That local gov. regulating the display and carry of firearms is a nightmare for citizens trying to obey the law? Should we organize a march (not OCing of course, lol)? There's got to be a way to dump the tea in the harbor!
 
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