SA AND an OC/CC may have prevented this:
The "mistaken identity by a drunk who tackles you" argument is funny. Does that happen a lot around there or something?
Now show them this website: http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefe...g/blogger.html
Where Clayton Cramer and David Burnett blog civilians using guns in self-defense. Links to real news stories where civillians used firearms to protect life & property.
Another great source of information that refutes the anti-gun myths is Gunfacts: http://www.gunfacts.info/
Download version 5.0 and read it. Great information, and all facts have cited sources.
I don't know what your financial situation is, but you could also take some additional handgun self defense training. It's a good idea just for the additional training, anyway. Try to find some training that includes weapon retention techniques. Better yet, bring them to the classes!
I too think the randrom drunk tackle is a little silly too, but I think the point is that if for some reason I get into a simple fight, the attacker may find my gun which may be taken, or simply will escalate the situationj further than it would have been without it. I'm not a guy to get into a physical fight, but that doesn't mean I can't get into an unprovoked one. If that were to happen, I could see their point that in that situation, provided that it's just a simple fight, I might be better of without the gun possibly escalating it.
Another example they gave me that I think is silly as well, is that if I were to carry at one of my jobs (at a restaurant, I dishwash), some of the other workers, most who just graduated high school, might find out I have the gun. They would then supposedly tell friends, who would tell friends, and so on, and I'll be attacked for my gun. Why people would randomly attack me for being armed when they know I'm armed doesn't make sense to me, and if they wanted a gun so bad there are much easier ways than attacking an armed person.
I have read gunfacts 5.0 and showed them sections in it, but they still think the dangers they've told me outweigh the benefits of carrying. They also consider the statistics to be biased or arranged in a way to be pro-gun.
As for training, that is definately something I want. I want to have as much knowledge and training as I can so if something bad did happen, I'd be more likely to know and execute the actions that need to be taken. At the moment, time (2 jobs) and finances restrict me.
Like I said before, I don't think they can be convinced it's "OK" for me to carry unless they themselve's experience something like the example razor_baghdad gave, or had someone really threaten their lives. But I'm hoping I can at least make them a little more comfortable with me doing so, because at the moment, both have been trying to get me to not carry, and they have told me they don't want me carrying at all near them or their friends, or at work. (One at an airport, I can't conceal anyways due to the uniform, and it's an airport and we have our own security force. The other I need to ask the manager first if they approve, if not, then I'll respect their private property and not bring it)