Orygunner
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I know this is not specifically Open Carry related, but I really need some help, fast!
I work for a large multi-national company. Based in the US, we have 29 offices around the world, employing over 17,000 people. I work at a facility in Oregon.
The company-wide policy forbids posession of firearms anywhere on company property. Rumor is that one employee at my facility was fired a few years ago just because he had a shotgun locked in a visible gun rack in his pickup.
I contacted our Corporate Security & Safety department to request that the rule be changed.Iwant to be able to protect myself travellingto and from work, butbecause I oftenride a bicycle to work, I cannot do so without risk of being fired (security can search any bags, including fanny packs). I mentioned that policies alone cannot prevent anyone from carrying a firearm onto the property, and that by preventing law-abiding citizens frompossessing firearms, they are preventing employees from exercising protected rights of self defense going to and from work.
I am having a telephone conference with one of the heads of Facilities and someone from the Legal department tomorrow afternoon. I am hoping I can make a good case for at least allowing firearms in the parking lot or to be "checked in" at the security desks into lockers, but ultimately, I would like to convince them that as long as they're concealed, CHL holders can keep them on our person while we work.
I have Googled and Googled, and can't seem to find any lawsuits or very many cases that support my request. What I need help finding is this:
1. After any "workplace rampage shootings," has any of the victims sued the employer for NOT allowing handguns for self-defense at work, or for providing inadequate protection, in spite of a "no firearms" policy?
2. Has anyone ever sued an employer because of a no firearms policy that left them defenseless when attacked going to and from work?
3. I am pretty sure that none of the "workplace rampage shootings" have been caused by a Concealed Handgun License holder, and that some of them were even stopped by one, but can anyone point me to any proof of any individual cases?
If anyone has any other information, Google searches, or argumentsthat you think can assist me, it would be much appreciated.
...Thanks...
...Orygunner...
I know this is not specifically Open Carry related, but I really need some help, fast!
I work for a large multi-national company. Based in the US, we have 29 offices around the world, employing over 17,000 people. I work at a facility in Oregon.
The company-wide policy forbids posession of firearms anywhere on company property. Rumor is that one employee at my facility was fired a few years ago just because he had a shotgun locked in a visible gun rack in his pickup.
I contacted our Corporate Security & Safety department to request that the rule be changed.Iwant to be able to protect myself travellingto and from work, butbecause I oftenride a bicycle to work, I cannot do so without risk of being fired (security can search any bags, including fanny packs). I mentioned that policies alone cannot prevent anyone from carrying a firearm onto the property, and that by preventing law-abiding citizens frompossessing firearms, they are preventing employees from exercising protected rights of self defense going to and from work.
I am having a telephone conference with one of the heads of Facilities and someone from the Legal department tomorrow afternoon. I am hoping I can make a good case for at least allowing firearms in the parking lot or to be "checked in" at the security desks into lockers, but ultimately, I would like to convince them that as long as they're concealed, CHL holders can keep them on our person while we work.
I have Googled and Googled, and can't seem to find any lawsuits or very many cases that support my request. What I need help finding is this:
1. After any "workplace rampage shootings," has any of the victims sued the employer for NOT allowing handguns for self-defense at work, or for providing inadequate protection, in spite of a "no firearms" policy?
2. Has anyone ever sued an employer because of a no firearms policy that left them defenseless when attacked going to and from work?
3. I am pretty sure that none of the "workplace rampage shootings" have been caused by a Concealed Handgun License holder, and that some of them were even stopped by one, but can anyone point me to any proof of any individual cases?
If anyone has any other information, Google searches, or argumentsthat you think can assist me, it would be much appreciated.
...Thanks...
...Orygunner...