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    I've been researching all day and can't seem to find anyone that can tell me where I CANNOT open carry in Missouri. I live in Columbia, unfortunately the Berkley of the Midwest, and most of the information on carrying seems to be hidden as deep as possible. I also have family in St. Charles, St. Peters, Lake St. Louis, etc. Does anyone KNOW of a city/county where it is ILLEGAL to open carry?

    Also, what constitutes "Open Carry"? Does it have to be totally visible or just so that people can see it? I have a CCW, but it's hard to conceal a full frame .45 during the Summer.

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    from my understanding if you have a CCW you can OC or CC even in cities that prohibit it, can anyone verifiy that

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    I know that St. Louis of totally off limits for open carry, with or without a license.

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    ComSec wrote:
    from my understanding if you have a CCW you can OC or CC even in cities that prohibit it, can anyone verifiy that
    My reading of the law is that CC is OK throughout the state, it's OC that is regulated by the local municipalities.

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    PhilofMU wrote:
    Also, what constitutes "Open Carry"? Does it have to be totally visible or just so that people can see it? I have a CCW, but it's hard to conceal a full frame .45 during the Summer.
    If you are going to invoke your open carry right, you should make sure it's completely visible. Your CCW should keep you out of trouble, but it looks like a grey area. Avoid grey areas.

    I'm having the same problem as you trying to find OC info. Half the time the info is not readily available and official sources can be vague on the subject. If I get any info I'll forward it to you.

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    Missouri does not have preemption for OC, however, CC is fully preempted. The MO statutes website is down at the moment so I can't provide a link to the exact statute regarding OC but I can tell you it is covered in RsMO 571 which section also includes the off limit areas for CC.

    Now, on to OC. Not being preempted the rules vary from place to place. Some cities such as O'Fallon, MO near St. Louis have just lifted the CC language from the state statute, pasted it into the ordinance and made OC and CC subject to the same off limits rules. Other places such as St. Louis City, North Kansas City and Cape Girardeau have complete bans on OC. It really is difficult to find out where you can and cannot OC in MO. Several city's ordinances can be found at:
    http://www.municode.com
    http://www.bpcnet.com/codes.htm and/or
    http://codes.sullivanpublications.com/codes-slp/

    As to printing or accidentally exposing your CC firearm, I would think that is another depends where you are thing. That statute just says "concealed" but does not define it. We were taught in my CC class that incidental/accidental exposure is not illegal in MO, however, I would be leery of it in say St Louis City, but unconcerned other places.

    If you have a CCW, I can't see that accidentally covering your firearm while OC would be an issue. The worst they could do would be to claim you were CC in which case you are still covered with your CCW. However, as has been mentione throughout the forum, playing "peek-a-boo" with your sidearm is always a bad idea and can be seen as suspicious. Either carry open or carry concealed and try to keep it in which ever state you have chosen.



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    in kc mo dont carry down town or any entertainment distric ie lots of bars.

    i am visiting from oklahoma and i am enjoying being able to use my 2nd amend right in full. cc is good and all but change can be cool.

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    from my understanding if you have a CCW you can OC or CC even in cities that prohibit it, can anyone verifiy that
    Verified...your wrong. RSMo 21.750 .3

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    in kc mo dont carry down town or any entertainment distric ie lots of bars.

    i am visiting from oklahoma and i am enjoying being able to use my 2nd amend right in full. cc is good and all but change can be cool.
    KC is ok for OC. Downtown and all the entertainment districts.

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    PhilofMU wrote:
    I've been researching all day and can't seem to find anyone that can tell me where I CANNOT open carry in Missouri. I live in Columbia, unfortunately the Berkley of the Midwest, and most of the information on carrying seems to be hidden as deep as possible. I also have family in St. Charles, St. Peters, Lake St. Louis, etc. Does anyone KNOW of a city/county where it is ILLEGAL to open carry?

    Also, what constitutes "Open Carry"? Does it have to be totally visible or just so that people can see it? I have a CCW, but it's hard to conceal a full frame .45 during the Summer.
    Deep is putting you on the right track...man he post a lot. Wonder if he hasjob or not..lol.

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    Shawn wrote:
    PhilofMU wrote:
    I've been researching all day and can't seem to find anyone that can tell me where I CANNOT open carry in Missouri. I live in Columbia, unfortunately the Berkley of the Midwest, and most of the information on carrying seems to be hidden as deep as possible. I also have family in St. Charles, St. Peters, Lake St. Louis, etc. Does anyone KNOW of a city/county where it is ILLEGAL to open carry?

    Also, what constitutes "Open Carry"? Does it have to be totally visible or just so that people can see it? I have a CCW, but it's hard to conceal a full frame .45 during the Summer.
    Deep is putting you on the right track...man he post a lot. Wonder if he hasjob or not..lol.
    I have 3 jobs but business is really slow the last several months so I have had far too much free time at the office and have spent a lot of it here.
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    If I'm remembering correctly,you can't carry open in any of Cass County.
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    hey guys look up kerner vs. state from 1921 it has clear info on open carry in mo, and has not changed as of yet but it is true there are cities that have there own laws on it.

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    hey guys look up kerner vs. state from 1921 it has clear info on open carry in mo, and has not changed as of yet but it is true there are cities that have there own laws on it.
    I've not read that one....there is one out of NC that is State vs Kerner...is this the case your talking about? If so, it doesn't apply.

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    I do stand corrected I thoaught that that took place here in mo? my bad and just wondering why it does not apply?


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    That is true. But you do risk being stopped more often and delayed. The whole idea is to not let the bad guys know you are carring. The element of surprise is on your side then and the local leo's will not bother you unless you give reason for a stop.

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    kb0tpz wrote:
    I do stand corrected I thoaught that that took place here in mo? my bad and just wondering why it does not apply?


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    It was the NCSC and was interperting its RKBA provision, doesn't have any effect on MO, but the courts can and I believe have, used this case, when talking about Art. 1, sec 23 of the MO constitution.

    Courts don't have to use or cite to another case to prove their point, such as Bliss v. Comm in VT.

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    That is true. But you do risk being stopped more often and delayed. The whole idea is to not let the bad guys know you are carring. The element of surprise is on your side then and the local leo's will not bother you unless you give reason for a stop.
    Hey D, this is your third post andwe understand concealed means concealed, that is not the point of this forum. I hope you now understand, these post are for OPEN Carry. Perhaps you can be helpful or go rant someplace else.

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    So why do you want to reply like a jerk? My response was indeed addressing OC not concealed. I stated a fact not hypothisis.

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    Is it a fact that OC really puts the person in harms way of criminals targeting them? I've read and heard numerous accusations but never read or heard of any substantive proof. But the part about OC adding to your chances of being hassled is very documentable, as per this web forum.

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    I have deterred more crime than I have can caused that's a fact. :P

    Walked in the hood, and never been jumped (while carrying)

    Carrying a gun open is safer than not, CC may have its advantages but its not worth ask my master for permission to protect myself from the thieves, and murders, but leaving the politicians out of this theirs the average criminal too.

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    Marble Hill, and Jackson Missouri has no ordinances against OC. Cape Girardeau and Perryville has an ordinance against open carry. That's all I know about at the moment.

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    Icalled the Callaway county Sherriff's Dept and asked them directly if there were any law's or restrictions in that county that do not allow OC and the deputy said that as long as you are not a felon and can legally own a firearm you CAN OC in that county. In Missouri it different from countyto county, city to city.The best place to start is that county's Sherriff Dept. I also know that is no restriction for OC in Boone or Cole. I have yet to contact Audrain on this. From what I have been told, the Sherriff can tell you if there are any cities in their county that have any restrictions on the books.



    I hope this hepls anyone in the Columbia area.



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    Diver_59 wrote:
    Marble Hill, and Jackson Missouri has no ordinances against OC. Cape Girardeau and Perryville has an ordinance against open carry. That's all I know about at the moment.
    Diver...read this section 9.04.010 - it only states concealed, so OC is ok in Perryville.




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    I don't know about other towns in Audrain, but Mexico bans OC.
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