Bill Starks
State Researcher
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I didn't catch it when I posted it but look real good at the link I posted (2008_OC)
I didn't catch it when I posted it but look real good at the link I posted (2008_OC)
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Skagit County Fairgrounds
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M1Gunr,
Is this what you are referring too, meaning it doesn’t apply to general public?
GENERAL RULES & INFORMATION
[align=left]The following rules and regulations apply to all non-commercial[/align]
[align=left]exhibitors/exhibits participating in the current year fair; exhibitors[/align]
[align=left]are required to familiarize themselves with them. Fair[/align]
[align=left]management reserves the final and absolute right to interpret[/align]
[align=left]these rules and regulations.[/align]
M1Gunr,
Is this what you are referring too, meaning it doesn’t apply to general public?
GENERAL RULES & INFORMATION
[align=left]The following rules and regulations apply to all non-commercial[/align]
[align=left]exhibitors/exhibits participating in the current year fair; exhibitors[/align]
[align=left]are required to familiarize themselves with them. Fair[/align]
[align=left]management reserves the final and absolute right to interpret[/align]
[align=left]these rules and regulations.[/align]
Bill Starks
State Researcher
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The way it is written, if you are a exibitor you cannot carry. However If you look at the web page for the Skagit County Fairgrounds. A visitor is also held to the no weapons policy.
http://www.skagitcounty.net/Common/asp/default.asp?d=Fair&c=General&p=general.htm
[align=left][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]These items may not be brought into the facility:
[/font][/align]
The way it is written, if you are a exibitor you cannot carry. However If you look at the web page for the Skagit County Fairgrounds. A visitor is also held to the no weapons policy.
http://www.skagitcounty.net/Common/asp/default.asp?d=Fair&c=General&p=general.htm
[align=left][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]These items may not be brought into the facility:
[/font][/align]
- [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Alcohol
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Weapons
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Laser-pointing devices
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Bicycles, roller skates/blades, skateboards, unauthorized vehicles
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Drug paraphernalia, controlled/illegal substances
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Animals (except service or exhibited animals or with Management permission)
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Solicitations, no handing out, selling, or promoting products outside of commercial vendor booths. [/font]
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Looks like they changed it! :celebrate
[align=left][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]These items may not be brought into the facility:
[/font][/align]
[align=left]
XD
[/font]
Looks like they changed it! :celebrate
[align=left][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]These items may not be brought into the facility:
[/font][/align]
[align=left]
- [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Alcohol
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Illegal Weapons
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Laser-pointing devices
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Bicycles, roller skates/blades, skateboards, unauthorized vehicles
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Drug paraphernalia, controlled/illegal substances
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Animals (except service or exhibited animals or with Management permission)
[/font] - [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Solicitations, no handing out, selling, or promoting products outside of commercial vendor booths. [/font]
XD
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Bear 45/70
Regular Member
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XD45PlusP wrote:
XD45PlusP wrote:
I'll bet they are hoping most people think that all weapons are illegal.
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Bear 45/70 wrote:
My last contact with Mr. Reilly: “I have had the SC Fair website altered from "Weapons" to "Illegal Weapons". Given a bit more time, we can probably come up with a better phrase that will make the intent more clear, but I believe that this
change conveys the message that licensed (CPL) people are not affected
by any prohibition, as their handguns would not be "illegal".
Any good suggestions I can pass along to him as to make it clear, all legal firearms whether OC or CC are permitted? Don’t want the county to fixate on the CPL thing only.
Bear 45/70 wrote:
XD45PlusP wrote:I'll bet they are hoping most people think that all weapons are illegal.
My last contact with Mr. Reilly: “I have had the SC Fair website altered from "Weapons" to "Illegal Weapons". Given a bit more time, we can probably come up with a better phrase that will make the intent more clear, but I believe that this
change conveys the message that licensed (CPL) people are not affected
by any prohibition, as their handguns would not be "illegal".
Any good suggestions I can pass along to him as to make it clear, all legal firearms whether OC or CC are permitted? Don’t want the county to fixate on the CPL thing only.
heresolong
Regular Member
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I always get a kick out of that phrase, "illegal weapons are prohibited here". The Washington State ferry system has the same sign. Like people who are carrying illegal weapons are worried about your stupid sign.
I always get a kick out of that phrase, "illegal weapons are prohibited here". The Washington State ferry system has the same sign. Like people who are carrying illegal weapons are worried about your stupid sign.
kparker
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Jbone, for one starting point, see this post by xiphoris from 8/25 at 3:12pm.
It contains language from the Spokane Municipal Code that's basically word-for-word identical to what I've seen posted by Pierce Transit (and either from the Pierce County Code or the Tacoma Municipal Code):
Jbone, for one starting point, see this post by xiphoris from 8/25 at 3:12pm.
It contains language from the Spokane Municipal Code that's basically word-for-word identical to what I've seen posted by Pierce Transit (and either from the Pierce County Code or the Tacoma Municipal Code):
David.Car
Regular Member
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I always enjoyed the illegal weapons phrase... Because the normal everyday citizen is going to be carrying illegal weapons in to the fair, and read that sign and go "Oh! Now wait a minute, it seems I can't bring this in to this here fair... Okay, back to the car we go."
I always enjoyed the illegal weapons phrase... Because the normal everyday citizen is going to be carrying illegal weapons in to the fair, and read that sign and go "Oh! Now wait a minute, it seems I can't bring this in to this here fair... Okay, back to the car we go."
just_a_car
Regular Member
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I see the irony, but I also like the phrase "illegal weapons" because those that carry weapons legally are more than likely aware of their legality and are sure of themselves as such. Those that don't carry weapons see it and get that warm fuzzy feeling that anti-gunners and sheeple get when they think a sign protects them from harm. It's really a win-win situation.
Even better is if one of the anti's or sheeple see an OC'er in the area that the sign was posted at and see security doing nothing about him. Either they call the cops and then see nothing done or they come to the conclusion immediately that it's not illegal to do that. *Gasp!* Education through exposure! YAY!:celebrate
I see the irony, but I also like the phrase "illegal weapons" because those that carry weapons legally are more than likely aware of their legality and are sure of themselves as such. Those that don't carry weapons see it and get that warm fuzzy feeling that anti-gunners and sheeple get when they think a sign protects them from harm. It's really a win-win situation.
Even better is if one of the anti's or sheeple see an OC'er in the area that the sign was posted at and see security doing nothing about him. Either they call the cops and then see nothing done or they come to the conclusion immediately that it's not illegal to do that. *Gasp!* Education through exposure! YAY!:celebrate
jchen012
Regular Member
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I wish they had just gotten rid of the whole sentence as opposed to saying "illegal weapons." But nonetheless, good work jbone!
I wish they had just gotten rid of the whole sentence as opposed to saying "illegal weapons." But nonetheless, good work jbone!
Sean
Regular Member
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While we usually only deal with firearms (handguns), there are a lot of other weapons out there that can be carried, knives (depending on juristiction), throwing stars, brass knuckles, saps, nun-chucks (-2 spelling), sword canes etc. I don't mind the "illegal weapons" as long as the folks at the gate know what illegal weapons are.
Now, let me pose a question concerning restrictions to carry / preemption etc.... When the law says that persons with a valid CPL are exempt from this portion of the regulation/code/law, does this mean that the weapon must be concealed.
While we usually only deal with firearms (handguns), there are a lot of other weapons out there that can be carried, knives (depending on juristiction), throwing stars, brass knuckles, saps, nun-chucks (-2 spelling), sword canes etc. I don't mind the "illegal weapons" as long as the folks at the gate know what illegal weapons are.
Now, let me pose a question concerning restrictions to carry / preemption etc.... When the law says that persons with a valid CPL are exempt from this portion of the regulation/code/law, does this mean that the weapon must be concealed.
just_a_car
Regular Member
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Sean wrote:
IANAL.
Sean wrote:
No, as OC is a legal form of carry. The only stipulation is that you have been issued a valid WA CPL by the state.
IANAL.
Trigger Dr
Regular Member
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Remember, the CPL is a concealed PISTOL license. A few years ago it was a CWP concealed WEAPONS license. Now it only covers pistols (does a revolver qualify as a pistol?
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Remember, the CPL is a concealed PISTOL license. A few years ago it was a CWP concealed WEAPONS license. Now it only covers pistols (does a revolver qualify as a pistol?
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Trigger Dr wrote:
Like they say "this isn’t the ole west"guess you had best modernize and get a pistol and put the revolver in a shadow box.
:celebrate
Trigger Dr wrote:
Remember, the CPL is a concealed PISTOL license. A few years ago it was a CWP concealed WEAPONS license. Now it only covers pistols (does a revolver qualify as a pistol?
Like they say "this isn’t the ole west"guess you had best modernize and get a pistol and put the revolver in a shadow box.
:celebrate