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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397986,00.html

    PEMBROKE PINES, Fla.— A federal agent was gunned down outside a Pembroke Pines post office Tuesday, and authorities say the shooter is on the loose.

    The U.S. Customs and Border Protection special agent was killed after he got into an argument in the parking lot, police spokesman Brian Davis said. The other man then pulled out a gun and fired at least one shot.

    The gunman then took off.

    The victim, who was not identified, was reportedly with his daughter when the shooting occurred.

    Investigators were interviewing postal employees and customers in the parking lot.

    The suspect is a white male, possibly hispanic, 45-55 years old with a full head of gray hair and wearing a green plaid short-sleeve shirt. They are also looking for a grey/green late model 4-door Chrysler.

    Click here for more on this story from Local10.com.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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    i wonder what the full story is.

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    johnnyb wrote:
    i wonder what the full story is.
    What, maybe he deserved it?

    He was with his kid for cryinoutloud.

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    AZkopper wrote:
    johnnyb wrote:
    i wonder what the full story is.
    What, maybe he deserved it?

    He was with his kid for cryinoutloud.
    The story is short on facts. And some of theinformation presented may not be true.

    It wouldn't be the first time, or even the millionth the press falsely reported or withheld information necessary to making a correct conclusion.

    Its entirely acceptable to wonder what the full story is.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    In some jurisdictions of Florida the LEA doesn't share information with the press concerning criminal investigations. The prupose for being tight lipped is to insure that, after a suspect(s) is arrested, tried and convicted, said convictions can't be overturned due to exessive pretrial publicity.

    In Gainesville, Fl (Gator Town) when they were still looking for the UF serial killer that killed 5 UF students, the Alachua County Sheriffs office would not devuldge anything concerning their investigation. Even after Danny Rawlings was captured, they wouldn't devuldge anything. Rawlings confessed the day his trial began and recieved the death penalty for each count of muder. The evidence against him has still not been made public, however, it can be viewed at the court house by appointment.

    IMHO, that is the way it should be throughout the USA. I don't like this crap of trying the accused in the press. Too many convictions have been overturned because of the pretrial publicity. And, I don't see how an unbiased jury can be selected after months of seeing it all on TV.

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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    SNIP And, I don't see how an unbiased jury can be selected after months of seeing it all on TV.
    Mark Twain has some good commentary on jury selection.

    We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world; and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men every day who don't know anything and can't read.
    - 4th of July speech 1873


    I believe the "don't know anything" comment was in reference to selecting for jurors only those who had heard nothing and spoke to nobody about the matter before the court. The "can't read" was of course a reference to newspapers.

    More interesting commentary here: http://www.twainquotes.com/Jury.html
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    While it says that the agent got in an argument it does not say whether or not he was a willing participant in the argument. If he was, then this is just a shame for the daughter and his family, but he should have just walked away. As we often discuss, if you are going to carry lethal means of defense, you have to be even more willing to just walk away than you are if you are not so armed. Especially if you are with loved ones.

    If he wasn't a willing participant and was trying to just walk away, it is still a tragedy for the family, but also for him as well. Perhaps he was caught flat footed trying to walk away and protect his daughter simultaneously and wasn't able to protect himself.

    We just don't have enough info to form a definite opinion on the matter.
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    News report says he wasn't armed, as far as they know,and that it was probably road rage over a parking spot. Not definite, just probable.
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    Wow, no one has brought up GFZ's or "Who needs a gun at the Post Office"? :shock:
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...1&catnum=1

    PEMBROKE PINES, Fla. (AP) - A federal agent was fatally shot outside a busy south Florida post office after a fight Tuesday, and dozens of police officers searched the area for the gunman, police said. The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agent died at Memorial Regional Hospital in suburban Fort Lauderdale less than three hours after the 9 a.m. shooting, police spokesman Sgt. Brian Davis said.

    Donald Pettit, 52, was with his young daughter when he was shot, said Carlos Baixauli, a spokesman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
    Pettit was shot once by a man during a possible fight in the post office parking lot, officials said. No one else was injured, and it wasn't clear whether the shooting was related to the agent's job. The suspect drove off in a car and police were combing the area for him.

    "We're just going to saturate the area," Davis said.

    A government helicopter hovered overhead and police officers appeared at every major intersection near the shooting scene.

    Police later issued a sketch of the suspect based on witness descriptions: A white man, possibly Hispanic, between 50 and 60 years old. They said the man was about 6 feet tall, medium to heavy build, with gray and white bushy hair and "distinctive sagging cheeks."

    The suspect's car was described as a metallic green Chrysler 300, possibly with tinted windows.

    Investigators interviewed postal employees, customers and other potential witnesses while looking for any surveillance cameras that might have recorded the shooting.

    The FBI also sent a team because the man was a federal agent, FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela said.

    Several other law enforcement officers have been killed recently in South Florida, including last year's unsolved slaying of Broward County sheriff's Sgt. Chris Reyka. A rally is scheduled later this week to call attention to Reyka's case.


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    http://www.miamiherald.com/457/story/630727.html
    Donald J. Pettit was a retired soldier who survived a long military career, including a terrorist bombing in Bangkok.
    Tuesday morning, he lost his life in a traffic dispute.
    As his daughter watched from inside the car, the federal agent was shot in the head by an angry motorist in front of a Pembroke Pines post office.
    Pettit was 52, married, the father of two children, a man who had spent a lifetime in government and military service -- including a stint protecting former U.S. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger.
    Authorities would not confirm what preceded the shooting, but federal sources close to the investigation said an argument started between Pettit and a motorist while they were driving on Pines Boulevard near the post office.
    Both drivers ended up pulling into the parking lot of the South Florida Mail Processing Center on Pines Boulevard and Dykes Road, where they confronted each other, the sources said.
    Pettit, a polygrapher with U.S. Customs and Border Protection, was unarmed; his gun was found in his car.
    A shot rang out, and Pettit slumped to the pavement. The gunman fled east on Pines Boulevard in a dark gray or green Chrysler 300 -- coincidentally the make of Pettit's car.
    The killer, described as six feet tall and in his 50s with a full head of slicked-back, gray hair and ''saggy'' cheeks, was wearing a short-sleeved, plaid green shirt.
    Just after noon, roughly 200 federal and local agents, together with local police, gathered in the parking lot of the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol's office on Pines Boulevard, just west of Interstate 75. There, they launched a dragnet to find the gunman.
    ''We're going to saturate the area,'' said Sgt. Bryan Davis, a Pembroke Pines police spokesman. ``We're going to turn over every rock.''
    For hours Tuesday afternoon, a Homeland Security helicopter hovered over Pembroke Pines, and law enforcement officers from local, state and federal agencies were stationed at every major intersection, keeping an eye out for the getaway car.
    Several cars matching the description of the suspect's were stopped, but no arrests had been made as of late Tuesday.
    ''It's a sickening thing,'' Pembroke Pines Deputy Police Chief Mike Segarra said. ''He did have his child in the car at the time of the shooting, which makes this more heinous.'' Police would not divulge the child's age.
    Pettit had a decorated government career. He saw the world as the principal staff assistant to Army Secretary John O. Marsh Jr. in the 1980s. He was in charge of all matters related to Marsh's personal security, according to Ray Gall, a Department of the Army spokesman.
    ''I'm shocked that this guy was able to get the drop on Don,'' said Pettit's longtime friend and business partner, Rene Rodriguez. ``He was a very bright, soft-spoken but tough individual. He didn't have an enemy in the world.''
    He also worked a security detail on Weinberger's trip to Thailand in April 1986, Rodriguez said.
    During that trip, a nail bomb exploded at the entrance of a hotel where Weinberger was due to speak. The defense secretary, who was scheduled to meet with Thailand's prime minister, would have passed right by it. It killed no one but injured three.
    Still, the incident was just one of many dangerous situations Pettit encountered in his life of government work.
    Originally from Indiana, Pettit was a chief warrant officer for the Army and worked in its Criminal Investigation Division. He was stationed all over the country, from Fort Myer and Falls Church, Va., to Fort McClellan in Weaver, Ala. Before his retirement from the Army in 1994, he worked as a polygraphic instructor -- a role he took up again with Customs and Border Protection's internal affairs.
    He also spent 15 years working for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and owned a granite countertops business with Rodriguez.
    On a personal level, Rodriguez served as best man when Pettit married his wife, Ileana Barreto, in Puerto Rico.
    The couple and their daughters lived in a Mediterranean, one-story, cream-colored home in the gated community of Encantada in Pembroke Pines.
    Tuesday afternoon, a few relatives and co-workers gathered outside Pettit's home.
    ''He was a calm guy who never messed with anyone,'' said his brother-in-law, Eduardo Barreto.
    When asked how the family was coping with news of Pettit's death, Barreto said, ``It's difficult. They're doing as good as can be expected.''
    Agents from Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Florida Highway Patrol, the Secret Service, Postal Service and law enforcement officers from Pembroke Pines, Fort Lauderdale, Davie, Sunrise, Miramar, the Broward Sheriff's Office and Miami-Dade were among those in the search.
    But police say they need help from witnesses.
    ''We have information that witnesses saw something,'' said Segarra. ``They're urged to come forward. We need to catch this guy.''
    Anyone with information should call Broward Crime Stoppers at 954-493-8477 or go online at http://www.browardcrimestoppers.org. Tuesday night, a $175,000 reward was announced for tips leading to the suspect's arrest.
    Miami Herald staff writers Jay Weaver, Walter Michot, David Ovalle and Ely Portillo contributed to this report.

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    A real tragedy. Hope they catch the perp soon and get to the bottom of this.

    Not enough info to draw any other conclusions. We may never know.

    The older I get, the more I'm willing to just walk away from an argument. It just ain't worth the time and energy and of what real benefit is it?

    De-escalate confrontations. Be a peacemaker.

    Pray for the family.

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    The version posted by Doug is rather disturbing. The agent foolishly 1) got into an argument on the road 2) pulled into a parking lot while still being followed by the person he was arguing with 3) left his firearm in the vehicle 4) got out to continue arguing with someone he was arguing with on the road 5) got himself shot and killed.

    All the of the above are all the worse in that he had his daughter with him! What a jackoff if that is even mostly true as reported.
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    I'll just briefly comment that I cannot recall the last time my area was saturated with police officers at every intersection and helicopters overhead in response to onecitizen beingshot or killed.

    And, no, its not because nobody gets shot or killed around here.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    I heard on the radio news just as I wason the way homea few minutes agothat they caught this guy. A 65 year old man. They didn't elaborate much.
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    Though Pettit was on duty, he was unarmed. His gun was found inside his car.
    Wonder, who holds a concealed-weapons permit, has no criminal history.

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    Why would someone, especially a trained federal agent, pull into a parking spot where he could be trapped when being followed by someone with whom he had been in a road rage altercation.
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    Momentary lapses in judgement tend to be the most deadly.
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    I think I read somewhere else that he was a polygraphist.

    Sometimes you just wonder what people are thinking.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/457/story/630727.html

    Pettit, a polygrapher with U.S. Customs and Border Protection, was unarmed; his gun was found in his car.
    Their 'thinking' does not get beyond 'federal agent' as combat operative. When my passport was red then I may as well have been a federal agent.

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