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    while I love my C9 and I still plan to carry it when my permit arrives, certain factors have prompted me to pick another pistol to carry most of the time. among the reasons for this decision are the fact that I would like to have something with a little more capacity, and something with a larger amount of aftermarket support. here are the qualities I a looking for:

    • capacity- I want something with 10+1 or greater capacity.
    • price. while my first choice of pistol would be a 1911, but I really can't lay down 700+ right now
    • SA/DA, with an exposed hammer. just a personal preference
    • aftermarket support. one of my biggest complaints is the fact that holster selection for the C9 is pathetically low. I would also like a pistol that I could buy one of those internal lasers for
    • caliber- I would prefer something in .40 or .45

    any suggestions would be helpful.

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    One that meets ALL of your requirements is the CZ in either mod. 75B or Mod. 2075 (Rami). I have both and of the 25 or so pistols I've owned, these rank in the top 5.

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    unreconstructed1 wrote:
    price. while my first choice of pistol would be a 1911, but I really can't lay down 700+ right now
    If you really want an M1911, you should be able to find one for a lot less than that if you shop around. I think the Rock Island Armory basic GI models can be found for less than $500.

    I just hate to see somebody denied their M1911.

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    Ah, gun porn.

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    unreconstructed1 wrote:
    while I love my C9 and I still plan to carry it when my permit arrives, certain factors have prompted me to pick another pistol to carry most of the time. among the reasons for this decision are the fact that I would like to have something with a little more capacity, and something with a larger amount of aftermarket support. here are the qualities I a looking for:
    • capacity- I want something with 10+1 or greater capacity.
    • price. while my first choice of pistol would be a 1911, but I really can't lay down 700+ right now
    • SA/DA, with an exposed hammer. just a personal preference
    • aftermarket support. one of my biggest complaints is the fact that holster selection for the C9 is pathetically low. I would also like a pistol that I could buy one of those internal lasers for
    • caliber- I would prefer something in .40 or .45
    any suggestions would be helpful.
    I'm a little confused as you want a 10+1 or more capacity but say a 1911 would be your first choice. Unless you get something like a hi-cap Para Ordinance 1911, you are going to to 7+1 or 8+1 in a 1911.

    Anway, taking the rest of what you are looking for, I would suggest a Sig Sauer P226 or P229 Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) in .40 cal.

    Here is a grade 1, P226, .40 cal, 12+1 magazine CPO on gunbroker with a $519 buy it now price. Actually, if my fiancee's house had already sold and closed I would have already bid on this one:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=106252116
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    Gun shows area great place to pick up a weapon. I got my GI .45 for $380 at a gun show last year. Basically new. The previous owner had bought it, couldn't afford it, had to sell it back and I got the benefit of a nearly new gun for almost $200 under MSRP.

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    Except for the SA/DA and exposed hammer requirement, I'd say a Glock 23 or 30 would fit for everything else on your list.

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    MITCH wrote:
    One that meets ALL of your requirements is the CZ in either mod. 75B or Mod. 2075 (Rami). I have both and of the 25 or so pistols I've owned, these rank in the top 5.

    Mitch

    I agree, a CZ definitely fits the criteria. They don't have a huge aftermarket following but isn't horrible either.

    I have a chubby for a CZ PO1 and I've seen them in the $500 range.


    EDIT: Other than being a striker fired, the XD45C would fit your needs too. It's a .45 and with the 10rd mag, it is 10+1, but with the 13rd mag it is 13+1. Lasermax does have an internal laser that replaces the guide rod and aftermarket support is good.

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    You are also describing Sigs to the T. DA/SA exposed hamer. Decocker lever makes it real convenient too. Depending on model, any caliber you want. My P226 is 18+1 flush fit 9mm and a dream to shoot.

    Edit: P226 comes in 9mm, .357 and .40 as well.

    P220 in .45.

    P229 in 9mm, .357, and .40.

    Also have 1911 models.

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    deepdiver wrote:
    I'm a little confused as you want a 10+1 or more capacity but say a 1911 would be your first choice.
    well, honestly it's all give and take. If I had teh option, I would just go with a double stack Hi cap 1911 base gun, but that's not in teh cards right now. I understand that with a standard 1911, I'll lose on the hi cap, and if I go with most ofthe hi cap options, I'll lose teh exposed hammer or the SA/DA. all I'm looking for is what fit's closest to my wish list. honestly, ya'll have given me a lot to consider. thanks for all the help. right now, it looks like I'll either be going with a Bersa .40, a rock island 1911, or a CZ.

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    Decocker lever makes it real convenient too

    that's pretty much most of the reason why I want an exposed hammer SA/DA in the first place. in order to alow me to decock the gun when I feel teh need to.

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    unreconstructed1 wrote:
    well, honestly it's all give and take. If I had teh option, I would just go with a double stack Hi cap 1911 base gun, but that's not in teh cards right now. I understand that with a standard 1911, I'll lose on the hi cap, and if I go with most ofthe hi cap options, I'll lose teh exposed hammer or the SA/DA. all I'm looking for is what fit's closest to my wish list. honestly, ya'll have given me a lot to consider. thanks for all the help. right now, it looks like I'll either be going with a Bersa .40, a rock island 1911, or a CZ.
    that's pretty much most of the reason why I want an exposed hammer SA/DA in the first place. in order to alow me to decock the gun when I feel teh need to.
    teh ?

    In case you just might be wondering, purposefully misspelling such a simple word as "the" just makes you look retarded.

    BTW Rock Island isn't the best quality when it comes to 1911, but they are all under $500.

    I wouldn't own one unless someone gave it to me, thenI would still trade it in as a down payment for a higher quality one.

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    I carry a Baby Eagle in .45. I wanted something in .45 ACP, and I like that it has a little higher capacity (10+1) than an 1911 (I have one of those, too ). It has a manual safety, is DA/SA with an exposed hammer. It's a pretty rugged gun, a proven design (based on the CZ-75), and most importantly (to me), it fits my hands very well and is very comfortable to shoot. I also really like the way it looks, but that is a very secondary characteristic for me. The after market support is not as strong. There is a laser available to fit it, but not laser grips (yet). I've seen holsters from Don Hume and Black Hills Leather, and I'm in the midst of getting Bluegrass to make one for me if he can get a mold.

    Here's a review of it by R.K. Campbell:

    http://www.gunweek.com/2005/feature0501.html

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    SIG P226, P228, P229, P250

    ...or just get a Glock 17 or 19 and be done with it.

    A buddy of mine like his HK USP Compact, but I find them a bit wide.

    Another friend likes his XD 45 Compact: 10+1 capacity in G19 height.

    The SIG P220, of course, is the best...or is it the Glock 19? Or the Browning Hi-Power? I can never get it straight

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    cREbralFIX wrote:

    ...or just get a Glock 17 or 19 and be done with it.
    :?
    [*]SA/DA, with an exposed hammer. just a personal preference [*]caliber- I would prefer something in .40 or .45
    Not going to happen according to his Criteria

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    I haven't owned one, but I do like the EAA Witness pistols. Those would fit the bill I think, although I'd go with a 10mm.

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    Weak 9mm wrote:
    I haven't owned one, but I do like the EAA Witness pistols. Those would fit the bill I think, although I'd go with a 10mm.
    If you go this route order a set of replacement mag and recoil springs from Wolff, the factory ones aren't reliable (IMHO).
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    Weak 9mm wrote:
    I haven't owned one, but I do like the EAA Witness pistols. Those would fit the bill I think, although I'd go with a 10mm.
    Aren't the EA Witness just copies of the CZ? Might as well get the original if you ask me.

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    Does CZ offer one in 10mm?

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    Ruger P94 in .40 or P95 for your 9mm needs. I just picked up another Ruger, the P95 for less than $400.00. I've had my P94 for over 7 years and still love it.



    ETA: I can't spell :?

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    Dustin wrote:
    In case you just might be wondering, purposefully misspelling such a simple word as "the" just makes you look retarded.
    obviously you've missedTHE couple of times that I have already explained, I just don't type very well... oh and givenTHE fact that you went completely out of you're way to go off topic to call me a retard , what does that make you look like?

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    unreconstructed1 wrote:
    SNIP: I just don't type very well
    Perhaps, put you write just fine.

    I'd also recommend one of the police-issue SIGs. They seem to meet all your criteria, have a good reputation for accuracy, and there's loads of aftermarket support.

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    Jim675 wrote:
    unreconstructed1 wrote:
    SNIP: I just don't type very well
    Perhaps, put you write just fine.
    yeah, and that's the funny part about folks that make such a big deal out of my posts due to the "teh" "tehre" and "tehy" misspellings. after someone mentioning the term "Leet" in connection to the way I type I researched the term a little and found out what they were talking about. while I can understand the fact that they would connect the 2, in fact I post exactly as I speak. I would personally believe that someone should be able to realize once they see that I do not substitute numerical characters for letters and substitute teh letters KS for teh letter X that the realization would come to them that I'm not trying to be "l337" as those who practive the slang writing style refers to themselves.



    anyway, let's get back on topic.

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    unreconstructed1 wrote:
    Jim675 wrote:
    unreconstructed1 wrote:
    SNIP: I just don't type very well
    Perhaps, put you write just fine.
    yeah, and that's the funny part about folks that make such a big deal out of my posts due to the "teh" "tehre" and "tehy" misspellings. after someone mentioning the term "Leet" in connection to the way I type I researched the term a little and found out what they were talking about. while I can understand the fact that they would connect the 2, in fact I post exactly as I speak. I would personally believe that someone should be able to realize once they see that I do not substitute numerical characters for letters and substitute teh letters KS for teh letter X that the realization would come to them that I'm not trying to be "l337" as those who practive the slang writing style refers to themselves.



    anyway, let's get back on topic.
    Yep, you suxor at the typage, have always seemed a good guy to me and need a Sig certified pre-owned (CPO) pistol
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    Honestly? I'd say go with one of Dustin's 1911 suggestions (I carry a RIA 1911), one of the CZ recommendations, or a Taurus PT92 (a Beretta M9 clone carrying 17+1).

    I haven't tried the CZs yet, but I hear great things about 'em all the time. I use a PT92 everytime I go to the range (range buddy owns one).

    I'd say try an XD, but you specified a non-striker-fired pistol.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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