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    Someone has pointed out that I am guilty of presenting a poor image of OC-ers and of firearms owners in general. I have taken the time to ponder their message, and realize that there is great truth in what they have said to me.

    I have been in the habit of closing my welcomes to new posters and posters who report their maiden OC event with what I had previously considered to be a joke. I colsed with "Newbie buys the beer and ammo."

    That does not present a good image of the OC community, because someone may get the impression that we OC-ers sit around drinking while we are armed.

    I was also chastized because someone might get the impression that I am too cheap to buy my own ammo, and am soliciting only on my own behalf for some newbie to cover my shooting expenses, or some part of those expenses.

    That does not present a good impression of me, and if I were soliciting on behalf of the membership of OCDO it would not present a good impression of the group.

    Therefore, I resolve to no longer use that "tag line."

    I'm not going to go back and read all my previous posts and edit it out where I have previously used it. I'm just not going to use it any more.

    If I have in any way harmed the image of the OC community, of the members of OCDO, or of firearms owners in general, I most humbly apologize.

    stay safe.

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    Apology accepted, though I, speaking for myself, had already figured out that you were making a light hearted joke.
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764.

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    but if you're not collecting from the newbies anymore where am, i, now going to get my discount beer and ammo?

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    67GT390FB wrote:
    but if you're not collecting from the newbies anymore where am, i, now going to get my discount beer and ammo?
    Same place you get your camo and black BDUs!

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    I think that some people take things overly seriously. I found it entirely clear that it was merely a running joke with newbies. I have seen similar concept newbie welcome "tag lines" from certain members at several automotive forums over the years and I can't imagine that anyone was thinking that we automotive enthusiasts were condoning or encouraging drunk driving.

    I respect that you would make a public apology, Skidmark, although I think it wholly unnecessary. It certainly shows your character and I much respect that you were willing to do so.
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    but in seriousness, maybe telling them to sign up for the VCDL might be a better suggestion

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    People are too sensitive on the internet.

    It's like the phone: someone who will scream at you over the phone will be meek and polite in person. I saw it all the time in tech support.

    So where's the beer and ammo fund anyway?

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    I thought it was a great tagline and if someone actually thought you were serious I hae serious concerns about them. As far as it giving a bad image to OC it is no where near as bad as the image that some give in their pure hatred for LEO and the government that they exhibit in some of their posts.

    Right or wrong and true or not if the average person were to read some of the post in here they would classify them as right-wing exremeist radicals. Sometimes people need to lighten up a little and enjoy more than just shooting guns all day.

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    PT111 wrote:
    I thought it was a great tagline and if someone actually thought you were serious I hae serious concerns about them.
    Ditto for me. I understood it properly. Anyone taking your statement in the worst posible light is someone who *wants* to take it that way instead of giving the speaker the proper consideration due a stranger.

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    None necessary, for me, sir. I took it at the way you inteneded it. A "Welcome Aboard".

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    People who wish to participate on forums like this have to be willing to take it as well as give it. Regional sense of humors do notconnect with all people and the Commonwealth isincreasinglybecoming less native born. I caused a bit of a stir myself by suggesting immediate retribution for the slaying of LEO's and was put in my place quickly, and I accept the criticism. Emotions sometimes cloud rational thinking.

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    I guess it is back to Nachos? Or was that when you did something good?

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    I think it extremely sad when someone is incapable of getting such an obvious good natured jest. It makes me wonder if they are going to be able to contribute much of anything to this site. I hope that they can. I too did not see the need for you to apoligize but as stated before, it show your character.

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    As a newbie I did not take offence to it. I think some people need to get thicker skin. It is like any fraternity (police, fire department, est.) we make comments like that to lighten up the anxiety that some people have with posting something on a new site. Skidmark no apology necessary.

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    Soooooo.... What am I supposed to do with all of this Shiner Bock and .45ACP? I guess I'll take it down to goodwill...

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    Its pretty sad that something like this offended someone to the point of requiring an apology.

    ETA: would it be a bad thing to post a picture of a whole crapload of loaded mags and beer?

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    skidmark wrote:
    Someone has pointed out that I am guilty of presenting a poor image of OC-ers and of firearms owners in general. I have taken the time to ponder their message, and realize that there is great truth in what they have said to me.

    I have been in the habit of closing my welcomes to new posters and posters who report their maiden OC event with what I had previously considered to be a joke. I colsed with "Newbie buys the beer and ammo."

    That does not present a good image of the OC community, because someone may get the impression that we OC-ers sit around drinking while we are armed.

    I was also chastized because someone might get the impression that I am too cheap to buy my own ammo, and am soliciting only on my own behalf for some newbie to cover my shooting expenses, or some part of those expenses.

    That does not present a good impression of me, and if I were soliciting on behalf of the membership of OCDO it would not present a good impression of the group.

    Therefore, I resolve to no longer use that "tag line."

    I'm not going to go back and read all my previous posts and edit it out where I have previously used it. I'm just not going to use it any more.

    If I have in any way harmed the image of the OC community, of the members of OCDO, or of firearms owners in general, I most humbly apologize.

    stay safe.

    skidmark
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    Skidmark.....You have a dry sense of humor....I have a dry sense of humor......Some have no sense of humor.

    I often hear people talk about a dry sense of humor but never a wet sense of humor. Is a wet sense of humor when tears come out of your eyes, snot out of your nose and you pee all over yourself?

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    PT111 wrote:
    Skidmark.....You have a dry sense of humor....I have a dry sense of humor......Some have no sense of humor.

    I often hear people talk about a dry sense of humor but never a wet sense of humor. Is a wet sense of humor when tears come out of your eyes, snot out of your nose and you pee all over yourself?
    PT you almost made me have a "wet sense of humor" with that last post.

    Man that is funny.



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    tarzan1888 wrote:
    Skidmark.....You have a dry sense of humor....I have a dry sense of humor......Some have no sense of humor.

    Amen, same here. I always took it for the joke it was as well.

    No biggie either way. If you'd rather stop, then do what you want.

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    I have been advised several times by those that do not know the law but should that it is illegal to drink alchohol while carrying a weapon (forget that I do not so indulge) and that "Guns and alcohol do not mix!" Misinformed Pros are at least as bad as Antis.

    Only concession that I will make to the "Guns and alcohol don't mix" arguement being somewhat correct, is that alcohol strips the lubricant from my weapon. Otherwise it does fine in an
    C2H5OH rich environment.

    Don't change your tag line but make mine root beer!

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    Only thing I find offensive about you skidmark is your username...

    In any case, I once dipped my gun in my bourbon and, upon tasting the bourbon, I can confirm that guns and alcohol are indeed a poor mix. Especially if you use CLP.

    And remember, caving in to oversensitive people is enabling political correctness. Hell with them.

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    Tomahawk wrote:
    Only thing I find offensive about you skidmark is your username...
    +1 (Hopefully it is from a "tire")
    Carry On.

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    ed wrote:
    Tomahawk wrote:
    Only thing I find offensive about you skidmark is your username...
    +1 (Hopefully it is from a "tire")
    It's my understanding that the "skidmark" handle is not a reference to anything you need to pretreat before putting in the washing machine, but refers to the fact that he tends to speak to people in such a manner as to cause them to stop short, thus leaving skidmarks on the floor.

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    Skid your apology is excepted but not for the tag line. Its for the things that you haven't said yet that won't offend me but others.

    I too like many on here have gotten that wonderful PM in relation to a comment or joke that wasn't taken as it was meant. I just respond with thanks and carry on in most cases. Keep up your sense of humor as this board is laking it by some.

    So I say lock the sidearm up for the night and have a cold one on the couch. Hell have one for me I at work right now.
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