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    Here are my tips for successful arguing on the forum.

    1) DON'T ARGUE. "What?", youmay ask. "I've been tricked by the thread title!" Not at all. Read on.

    2) Lots more people read the threads than participate. See thepost counts and view counts by the thread titles.

    3) Just like martial arts, use his momentum against him. In this case, just step aside and let him run into the wall of public opinion, buttressed by your reputation.

    4) Have faith in your forum mates. They're not stupid. If you can recognize a newbie or troll is being an idiot, impolite, or argumentative, your forum mates can recognize it, too. They will think far less of him than they will of you. Especially if you remain silent and do not get into the fight.

    5) So lethim blather, cuss, call names.

    6) If you think it worth responding at all, just be calm, patient, and polite about it. Do realize that your assailant probably won't change his view easily anyway, so consider how much effort it might take when deciding whether its worth it. I consider generally thatif he isn't going to play nice, I don't owe it to him to pass along knowledge or wisdom that it hastaken meover a yearto aquire by reading the wiser heads on this forum.

    7) Remember, the forum is here to share knowledge and wisdom. If somebody wants to start an argument, he is violating that basic purpose. No sense in you perpetuating that violation.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Very well said.



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    Indeed, very well said; but I hope you'll forgive me if I post one of my favorite arguments.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM

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    Excellent points, Citizen. I usually avoid forum arguments however, as happened recently to me and may even have been part of the impetus for this thread, it is easy to get sucked in on occasion. It is not always easy to self-filter snarky comments to someone who offers provocation.

    ETA: I love Monty Python and that is indeed a memorable sketch I have not seen in some time.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    deepdiver wrote:
    Excellent points, Citizen. I usually avoid forum arguments however, as happened recently to me and may even have been part of the impetus for this thread, it is easy to get sucked in on occasion. It is not always easy to self-filter snarky comments to someone who offers provocation.

    ETA: I love Monty Python and that is indeed a memorable sketch I have not seen in some time.
    I agree with Diver, very good points, Citizen. But while principled people may disagree with civility, an a-hole will always be an a-hole. And if it flies and quacks, I have a hard time not saying "look at the duck."
    "For any man who sheds his blood with me this day shall be my brother...And gentlemen now abed shall think themselves accursed, they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks who fought with us on Crispin's day." Henry V

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    Gunslinger wrote:
    deepdiver wrote:
    Excellent points, Citizen. I usually avoid forum arguments however, as happened recently to me and may even have been part of the impetus for this thread, it is easy to get sucked in on occasion. It is not always easy to self-filter snarky comments to someone who offers provocation.

    ETA: I love Monty Python and that is indeed a memorable sketch I have not seen in some time.
    I agree with Diver, very good points, Citizen. But while principled people may disagree with civility, an a-hole will always be an a-hole. And if it flies and quacks, I have a hard time not saying "look at the duck."
    I understand.

    Dorealize that everybody else knows what a duck looks and sounds like, too.

    If you find it irresistable to comment, just be careful you don't sound like a duck.

    We'll make you the official originator of the duck metaphor applied to forum fights.

    "Sounds like a flock of ducks!"


    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    You forgot rule number 8: Always dress stylish when arguing with Citizen.





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