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Citizens Arrest/Detainment
- Thread starter Dustin
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I sent you a PM a little while ago Louisiana Carry
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That's why cops have radios and supervisors.
You could endup making a settlement like Gonzales did to Mark if you arrest someone without all the legalities being up to snuff.
That's why cops have radios and supervisors.
You could endup making a settlement like Gonzales did to Mark if you arrest someone without all the legalities being up to snuff.
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Well I just got back from this party.
Right before I went to the party I sat at the Tangipahoa Sherrif's sub station with my buddy who is the Sergent and told him I was about to go to this party and he said that he already had some complaints about what happened last time and that he was going to be breaking it up soon.
Well I get to the party and as I'm talking to some people that I know, I am choked from behind and feel someone going for my gun. I try to get control of the gun but instead I get my gun pointed at me.
Its the crazy dad pointing my gun at me and screaming what the f%%% you doing with a gun I'm on parole and house arrest and I told him I'm with Mr.(Sergent) from the Tangi Sherrif (as my buddy told me to say if there was any trouble and after I call he would come take care of it)
Well the dad tells me he doesn't give a F*** who I'm with and pulls a gun from his waste and puts it to my head and says he will blow my brains out. I stayed calm and just told him to put his gun down and return my firearm. After some people go to him and calm him down, he gives me my firearm back and says get the f*** out of here.
So as it would have no longer been a "good kill" as I was no longer threated with a gun to my head, I walked away and called the Sgt.
Once all of the cops pulled in, he tried to appoligize of course and then once he found out that everyone was a witness to what happened including his son, he threatened to press charges on me for tresspassing with a weapon on his property.
So I couldn't press charges on him even though he put his gun to my head while holding my gun in my cheast because he would press charges on me.
So after talking to my buddy, he suggested I let it go or he would be pressing charges on me as well.
What would you guys have done in this situation? I knew it was no longer a "good kill" (no kill is a good kill) and I knew that even if I did have control of my weapon when he put his to my head and I would have shot him, his weed head buddies would have shot me.
It was a tough situation but I did use my head and stayed calm about everything, but what would you guys have done?
I know this should most likely be a thread of its own, but I'm posting here as I was just talking about this party in this thread eariler today.
Well I just got back from this party.
Right before I went to the party I sat at the Tangipahoa Sherrif's sub station with my buddy who is the Sergent and told him I was about to go to this party and he said that he already had some complaints about what happened last time and that he was going to be breaking it up soon.
Well I get to the party and as I'm talking to some people that I know, I am choked from behind and feel someone going for my gun. I try to get control of the gun but instead I get my gun pointed at me.
Its the crazy dad pointing my gun at me and screaming what the f%%% you doing with a gun I'm on parole and house arrest and I told him I'm with Mr.(Sergent) from the Tangi Sherrif (as my buddy told me to say if there was any trouble and after I call he would come take care of it)
Well the dad tells me he doesn't give a F*** who I'm with and pulls a gun from his waste and puts it to my head and says he will blow my brains out. I stayed calm and just told him to put his gun down and return my firearm. After some people go to him and calm him down, he gives me my firearm back and says get the f*** out of here.
So as it would have no longer been a "good kill" as I was no longer threated with a gun to my head, I walked away and called the Sgt.
Once all of the cops pulled in, he tried to appoligize of course and then once he found out that everyone was a witness to what happened including his son, he threatened to press charges on me for tresspassing with a weapon on his property.
So I couldn't press charges on him even though he put his gun to my head while holding my gun in my cheast because he would press charges on me.
So after talking to my buddy, he suggested I let it go or he would be pressing charges on me as well.
What would you guys have done in this situation? I knew it was no longer a "good kill" (no kill is a good kill) and I knew that even if I did have control of my weapon when he put his to my head and I would have shot him, his weed head buddies would have shot me.
It was a tough situation but I did use my head and stayed calm about everything, but what would you guys have done?
I know this should most likely be a thread of its own, but I'm posting here as I was just talking about this party in this thread eariler today.
Louisiana Carry
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First off, get some training on weapon retention and possibly a level 2 or 3 retention holster.
Second off, don't put yourself in situations where crap like this is likely to happen.
Third off, there are no charges that could stick for you open carrying to a place you were invited to. Trespassing charges are for places where you have no right to be or have been prohibited from.
Also, backup guns are your friends. I have one in my pants if I have one on my hip, but I know that a second concealed weapon is not an option for you.
Glad no one was hurt, but hopefully you never let yourself be in the middle of something like that again. You knew it was trouble, why did you go?
The questions you should be asking yourself are not whether you would be justified by doing such-and-such, but rather- can this situation be avoided altogether?
First off, get some training on weapon retention and possibly a level 2 or 3 retention holster.
Second off, don't put yourself in situations where crap like this is likely to happen.
Third off, there are no charges that could stick for you open carrying to a place you were invited to. Trespassing charges are for places where you have no right to be or have been prohibited from.
Also, backup guns are your friends. I have one in my pants if I have one on my hip, but I know that a second concealed weapon is not an option for you.
Glad no one was hurt, but hopefully you never let yourself be in the middle of something like that again. You knew it was trouble, why did you go?
The questions you should be asking yourself are not whether you would be justified by doing such-and-such, but rather- can this situation be avoided altogether?
Task Force 16
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OK, you say that he claimed to be on parole, and that he was carrying a gun of his own? That should have won him a trip back to prison right there, for violation of parole.
OK, you say that he claimed to be on parole, and that he was carrying a gun of his own? That should have won him a trip back to prison right there, for violation of parole.
grimstar
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I smell an agent provocateur...in any event, something doesn't smell right about this...
Grimstar
I smell an agent provocateur...in any event, something doesn't smell right about this...
Grimstar
Dustin
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Anty506 wrote:
No you did not use your head.
Open carrying a Firearm to a party where dope heads and drunks are !?!? Are you crazy ?
You brought this on yourself, bad idea. IMO
Just be happy you didn't get your head split open by your own gun. Think about it. How would you have even defended yourself to begin with. Parties have lots of people. Plenty of innocent bystanders to be shot when your bullet goes thru whoever you were shooting in the first place. Plus it's a party, plenty of arrogant drunk a-holes. Bringing a gun in, only adds fuel to the fire for someone to test your nutts on whether or not you would use it.
Bad Idea Bro, bad idea.
I'm sure glad you made it out of there uninjured and alive, but I would defintely consider this a lesson. :uhoh:
Anty506 wrote:
No you did not use your head.
Open carrying a Firearm to a party where dope heads and drunks are !?!? Are you crazy ?
You brought this on yourself, bad idea. IMO
Just be happy you didn't get your head split open by your own gun. Think about it. How would you have even defended yourself to begin with. Parties have lots of people. Plenty of innocent bystanders to be shot when your bullet goes thru whoever you were shooting in the first place. Plus it's a party, plenty of arrogant drunk a-holes. Bringing a gun in, only adds fuel to the fire for someone to test your nutts on whether or not you would use it.
Bad Idea Bro, bad idea.
I'm sure glad you made it out of there uninjured and alive, but I would defintely consider this a lesson. :uhoh:
Gunslinger
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Anty506 wrote:
Anty506 wrote:
You're kidding, right? Do they still have chaingangs in LA? If you commit armed trespass you'll soon be able to tell us.
Louisiana Carry
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Criminal trespass
[align=justify]A. No person shall enter any structure, watercraft, or movable owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.[/align]
[align=justify]B. No person shall enter upon immovable property owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.[/align]
[align=justify]C. No person shall remain in or upon property, movable or immovable, owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.[/align]
[align=justify]D. It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution for a violation of Subsection A, B, or C of this Section, that the accused had express, legal, or implied authority to be in the movable or on the immovable property.[/align]
Criminal trespass
[align=justify]A. No person shall enter any structure, watercraft, or movable owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.[/align]
[align=justify]B. No person shall enter upon immovable property owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.[/align]
[align=justify]C. No person shall remain in or upon property, movable or immovable, owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.[/align]
[align=justify]D. It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution for a violation of Subsection A, B, or C of this Section, that the accused had express, legal, or implied authority to be in the movable or on the immovable property.[/align]
KBCraig
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Anty506 wrote:
Seriously, it's not your job to police the neighbors. Unless your kid was one of those down there drinking underage and smoking pot, and in that case your only reason to be there was to drag him out. Otherwise, stay away!
Anty506 wrote:
Stayed the hell away in the first place.
Seriously, it's not your job to police the neighbors. Unless your kid was one of those down there drinking underage and smoking pot, and in that case your only reason to be there was to drag him out. Otherwise, stay away!
charlie12
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Sound lilke some of the "what if" stuff I read on other gun forums. None of it sound real are you a troll?
If if is real which I don't think it is, you and your little brother need to find a better class of people to hang out with.
And if you want to be a Deputy you sure show poor judgement. You might want to give that up now.
How old are you?
Sound lilke some of the "what if" stuff I read on other gun forums. None of it sound real are you a troll?
If if is real which I don't think it is, you and your little brother need to find a better class of people to hang out with.
And if you want to be a Deputy you sure show poor judgement. You might want to give that up now.
How old are you?
Louisiana Carry
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He is under 21, but not a troll.
I have spoken to the man on the phone, and he is not a bad guy, just young.
He is under 21, but not a troll.
I have spoken to the man on the phone, and he is not a bad guy, just young.
charlie12
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Louisiana Carry wrote:
Louisiana Carry wrote:
Roger that.