Alwayspacking
Campaign Veteran
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In posting this topic I hope to encourage the new people here that are apprehensive about OC for the first time. I would like to start off by saying that, I made 219 post with numerous topics before I got a chance to OC. It was not that I was afraid to do it, but I was not in a place that I could OC. Had I been in the US when I found out about OC I would have jumped right in to it. Because this is something that I have always wanted to do before I even heard it was anything called OC. In saying this, I am in no means telling anyone to go outside with a gun on your hip not knowing all the laws or your state, county or city. You should know your state's laws, your local laws and ordinance pertaining to firearms before you OC.
Also You MUST know your rights as an individual. When it come to dealing with your local LEO, you must know what they can, and can not do to you when you OC. Not all LEO are bad, not all are informed, and not all agree with your right to carry a weapon, never the less OC, So you should know when they over step their boundaries to protect yourself.
I know many of you have read on OCDO about people being face down on the street, handcuffed, at gun point, detained, embarrassed in public places, scolded, told to CC by LEO, but the few accounts of these incidents does not come close to the number of LEO encounters that are positive or that are uneventful. I myself thought the first time I OC I would have a negative LEO encounter, but that was not the case at all. I was expecting to have I some excitement with the LEO's when they saw my sidearm. I even went looking for some policemen so they could see me with my sidearm to see what they did, so that I could have some excitement in my day and at the same time educate a LEO for the next guy that would follow in my steps.( I really thought that) Well I guess I was that next guy because the LEOs that I came across did not even care I had a gun on my hip. One did run my plates on my car, but that was all, he did not even approach me about my gun, and I made sure he saw it. I feel he was just doing his job to see if I had any outstanding warrants. But every LEO encounter I had was very pleasant.
You also may have a fear of being kicked out of an establishment by management. I thought I would be also in my first days of Ocing. But NOPE no one said a word. One store managers said "Thanks for coming in to shopping please come again". He said that as he was standing on my strong side. ( Yep He Saw It) All the negative accounts you may find here are like (for a lack of a better phrase) bad news, or complaints that one would give a business, or a product. The bad reports tend to stick out, the gossip on the super stars stays in the headlines and in your mind more than the good reports does, and the bad reports over shadow all the good reports that may come out. (How long will people remember and update others if I told them that Joe Blow bowled a perfect game? There will be a few number of people that would care about it, or even give updates on this. But If I told you Joe Blow Bowled a almost perfect game and then rolled a gutter ball in the last frame, then took off all his clothes and ran down the lane and dived head first in the pins, jumped up and yelled strike dancing like a clown!! You will not ever forget that story, and people will talk about it more so than the story of him bowling a 300 game. My point is that the negative reports stay alive more so than the good reports people have. This is what could generate your fears and mine's, but when I start OCing I found the only thing to fear was… well… nothing. I was not carrying against any laws. The worst could happen to me for the most part would be I am asked to leave a establishment or embarrassed by a LEO. So I figured... If I am man enough to carry a gun, man enough to stand face to face to a BG that has the will and intent to harm myself and my family. If I am man enough to pull the trigger to stop an attack on my family or myself, then I am man enough to be embarrassed by a store manager, in being asked to leave his POB. I am man enough to take the scolding of a LEO, and I am man enough to walk out of my house Ocing.
OCDO and the heart of OCDO which is people like you and me. Ordinary people with jobs, and family, people that believe in the 2nd Amendment, people that believe in responsible firearm carry and gun ownership, Personal Defense, and our rights and freedom as citizens of The United States Of America in a free country, offers tones of support for you, they/we stand behind everyone that OC within the law, and we will fight for you in providing resources, and advice and support in your favor if you ever find yourself in a dilemma. You have the backing to go forward in OC with OCDO. That’s what I felt when I joined this site. We are a group of individual that are united, yet for the most part we are strangers. When I OC for the first time I was not alone. But I had OCDO backing me up, and I thought about this from time to time. I knew there was someone here that could advise me on the course of actions to take if things went bad for me. We are over 8,000 strong and there is strength in numbers.
For some encouragement I have added a few pictures of myself Ocing in public places. I am really sorry I do not have more photos to share, but maybe others will post a few pictures of their OC in public places. I never seen a Ocer in my life until I went to a OC meeting, and If you have not seen a Ocer before today… today is your lucky day. I want to show you that it really is not that bad at all, and that you can function just like any other person you pass on the street, only your you are shown to be armed. I OCed for 2 weeks every day in numerous places, I was seen by people of all races, ages, nationalities, religious beliefs, and political views, and I did not even get the slightest negative comment or evil eye from anyone. Yes at some point I may get a negative comment, but all the negative a person my get is only a fraction compared to the positive to no comment that a Ocer gets in a given day.
I hope my photos, and those that others may post will be an encouragement to you that are fearful to OC. Remember you have us for support like NEXTEL "we got you covered." So once you read up on the laws, and you are confident you know your rights, join us, and have a good ole time. Your action my just reach another wanting Ocer.
This Photo was taken in Tacoma WA at a public park. lots of people there. Old and young folks
In posting this topic I hope to encourage the new people here that are apprehensive about OC for the first time. I would like to start off by saying that, I made 219 post with numerous topics before I got a chance to OC. It was not that I was afraid to do it, but I was not in a place that I could OC. Had I been in the US when I found out about OC I would have jumped right in to it. Because this is something that I have always wanted to do before I even heard it was anything called OC. In saying this, I am in no means telling anyone to go outside with a gun on your hip not knowing all the laws or your state, county or city. You should know your state's laws, your local laws and ordinance pertaining to firearms before you OC.
Also You MUST know your rights as an individual. When it come to dealing with your local LEO, you must know what they can, and can not do to you when you OC. Not all LEO are bad, not all are informed, and not all agree with your right to carry a weapon, never the less OC, So you should know when they over step their boundaries to protect yourself.
I know many of you have read on OCDO about people being face down on the street, handcuffed, at gun point, detained, embarrassed in public places, scolded, told to CC by LEO, but the few accounts of these incidents does not come close to the number of LEO encounters that are positive or that are uneventful. I myself thought the first time I OC I would have a negative LEO encounter, but that was not the case at all. I was expecting to have I some excitement with the LEO's when they saw my sidearm. I even went looking for some policemen so they could see me with my sidearm to see what they did, so that I could have some excitement in my day and at the same time educate a LEO for the next guy that would follow in my steps.( I really thought that) Well I guess I was that next guy because the LEOs that I came across did not even care I had a gun on my hip. One did run my plates on my car, but that was all, he did not even approach me about my gun, and I made sure he saw it. I feel he was just doing his job to see if I had any outstanding warrants. But every LEO encounter I had was very pleasant.
You also may have a fear of being kicked out of an establishment by management. I thought I would be also in my first days of Ocing. But NOPE no one said a word. One store managers said "Thanks for coming in to shopping please come again". He said that as he was standing on my strong side. ( Yep He Saw It) All the negative accounts you may find here are like (for a lack of a better phrase) bad news, or complaints that one would give a business, or a product. The bad reports tend to stick out, the gossip on the super stars stays in the headlines and in your mind more than the good reports does, and the bad reports over shadow all the good reports that may come out. (How long will people remember and update others if I told them that Joe Blow bowled a perfect game? There will be a few number of people that would care about it, or even give updates on this. But If I told you Joe Blow Bowled a almost perfect game and then rolled a gutter ball in the last frame, then took off all his clothes and ran down the lane and dived head first in the pins, jumped up and yelled strike dancing like a clown!! You will not ever forget that story, and people will talk about it more so than the story of him bowling a 300 game. My point is that the negative reports stay alive more so than the good reports people have. This is what could generate your fears and mine's, but when I start OCing I found the only thing to fear was… well… nothing. I was not carrying against any laws. The worst could happen to me for the most part would be I am asked to leave a establishment or embarrassed by a LEO. So I figured... If I am man enough to carry a gun, man enough to stand face to face to a BG that has the will and intent to harm myself and my family. If I am man enough to pull the trigger to stop an attack on my family or myself, then I am man enough to be embarrassed by a store manager, in being asked to leave his POB. I am man enough to take the scolding of a LEO, and I am man enough to walk out of my house Ocing.
OCDO and the heart of OCDO which is people like you and me. Ordinary people with jobs, and family, people that believe in the 2nd Amendment, people that believe in responsible firearm carry and gun ownership, Personal Defense, and our rights and freedom as citizens of The United States Of America in a free country, offers tones of support for you, they/we stand behind everyone that OC within the law, and we will fight for you in providing resources, and advice and support in your favor if you ever find yourself in a dilemma. You have the backing to go forward in OC with OCDO. That’s what I felt when I joined this site. We are a group of individual that are united, yet for the most part we are strangers. When I OC for the first time I was not alone. But I had OCDO backing me up, and I thought about this from time to time. I knew there was someone here that could advise me on the course of actions to take if things went bad for me. We are over 8,000 strong and there is strength in numbers.
For some encouragement I have added a few pictures of myself Ocing in public places. I am really sorry I do not have more photos to share, but maybe others will post a few pictures of their OC in public places. I never seen a Ocer in my life until I went to a OC meeting, and If you have not seen a Ocer before today… today is your lucky day. I want to show you that it really is not that bad at all, and that you can function just like any other person you pass on the street, only your you are shown to be armed. I OCed for 2 weeks every day in numerous places, I was seen by people of all races, ages, nationalities, religious beliefs, and political views, and I did not even get the slightest negative comment or evil eye from anyone. Yes at some point I may get a negative comment, but all the negative a person my get is only a fraction compared to the positive to no comment that a Ocer gets in a given day.
I hope my photos, and those that others may post will be an encouragement to you that are fearful to OC. Remember you have us for support like NEXTEL "we got you covered." So once you read up on the laws, and you are confident you know your rights, join us, and have a good ole time. Your action my just reach another wanting Ocer.
This Photo was taken in Tacoma WA at a public park. lots of people there. Old and young folks
