I am so thoroughly disgusted and disillusioned that only 3 or 4 of you responded to this post. I didnt see one OCer there in my 5 or 6 hours there, and trust me I looked. This document set us apart as a nation. It is one of the things you guys continuously spout about and partially refer to with your rights. For me, seeing it was a spiritual experience as well as an intellectual one. For those of you who went, please post that you did. And I do not lump you in the group I am talking about next, Ihold you in high esteem. For anyone else who did not, I lost all respect for you, this board and this movement. If you didnt make the time to go, you should not have the privilege to use the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence or any other historical document to back up your sill little OC fantasy. Hows this for "educating", those of you who didnt go, are ignorant imbeciles who dont appreciate what you use. I equate you to smarmy politicians who say what everyone wantsto hear, but once you make your point, you lie and backspin your way out of it,How about you start OCing the Bill of Rights at your next meet-up, maybe you can sway your comrades into being more than just little OC lemmings, really practicing what you preach. Ireally was behind your movement, just not how it was executed. Now I am not for you individuals. Shame on you, for you have spit on your country. Hows that for education UTAH OCers?
UTOC-45-44 wrote:HEY @#$%, I said " For those of you who went, please post that you did. And I do not lump you in the group I am talking about next, Ihold you in high esteem.33itmefs wrote:I am so thoroughly disgusted and disillusioned that only 3 or 4 of you responded to this post. I didnt see one OCer there in my 5 or 6 hours there, and trust me I looked. This document set us apart as a nation. It is one of the things you guys continuously spout about and partially refer to with your rights. For me, seeing it was a spiritual experience as well as an intellectual one. For those of you who went, please post that you did. And I do not lump you in the group I am talking about next, Ihold you in high esteem. For anyone else who did not, I lost all respect for you, this board and this movement. If you didnt make the time to go, you should not have the privilege to use the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence or any other historical document to back up your sill little OC fantasy. Hows this for "educating", those of you who didnt go, are ignorant imbeciles who dont appreciate what you use. I equate you to smarmy politicians who say what everyone wantsto hear, but once you make your point, you lie and backspin your way out of it,How about you start OCing the Bill of Rights at your next meet-up, maybe you can sway your comrades into being more than just little OC lemmings, really practicing what you preach. Ireally was behind your movement, just not how it was executed. Now I am not for you individuals. Shame on you, for you have spit on your country. Hows that for education UTAH OCers?
HEY A$$H0_ _,
I was there with my Wife, SGT Jensen and Packingmama and their kids. I OCed my S&W 4006 in a Gould&Goodrich Shoulder Holster.
SGT Jensen and I I even stood and spoke with one on the Boys that was Guarding the Declaration of Independence. I got plenty of :what::what::what::what::what::what::what:....and :shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
We were there around 4:30ich for about an hour walking around.
SGT Jensen said that you were suppossed to be there and we tried to look-out for you to 33itmefs.
TJ
" you would have been in that group until you just make yourself look like a complete douchebag. So before you fly off the handle again, check yourself. Just because you have a big ol' gun doesnt mean you are top @#$%.
A concealed firearm permit will not get you into the secured area, you will still need to check your firearm. You do not need a permit to open carry in the regular part of the building. That being said, not a facilities are complying with Utah law. They are required to have safe storage for your checked firearm, but places like the Utah County Courthouse in Provo do not. They will ask you to leave.
SGT Jensen wrote:A concealed firearm permit will not get you into the secured area, you will still need to check your firearm. You do not need a permit to open carry in the regular part of the building. That being said, not a facilities are complying with Utah law. They are required to have safe storage for your checked firearm, but places like the Utah County Courthouse in Provo do not. They will ask you to leave.
Side topic here....
I checked with my friend a LEO with the Utah County Sheriff's Department...
Utah County Courthouse DOES have a secure location for storage of weapons but they MUCH prefer that you store your own in your vehicle.
JoeSparky
I am so thoroughly disgusted and disillusioned that only 3 or 4 of you responded to this post. I didnt see one OCer there in my 5 or 6 hours there, and trust me I looked. This document set us apart as a nation. It is one of the things you guys continuously spout about and partially refer to with your rights. For me, seeing it was a spiritual experience as well as an intellectual one. For those of you who went, please post that you did. And I do not lump you in the group I am talking about next, Ihold you in high esteem. For anyone else who did not, I lost all respect for you, this board and this movement. If you didnt make the time to go, you should not have the privilege to use the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence or any other historical document to back up your sill little OC fantasy. Hows this for "educating", those of you who didnt go, are ignorant imbeciles who dont appreciate what you use. I equate you to smarmy politicians who say what everyone wantsto hear, but once you make your point, you lie and backspin your way out of it,How about you start OCing the Bill of Rights at your next meet-up, maybe you can sway your comrades into being more than just little OC lemmings, really practicing what you preach. Ireally was behind your movement, just not how it was executed. Now I am not for you individuals. Shame on you, for you have spit on your country. Hows that for education UTAH OCers?
33itmefs wrote:I am so thoroughly disgusted and disillusioned that only 3 or 4 of you responded to this post. I didnt see one OCer there in my 5 or 6 hours there, and trust me I looked. This document set us apart as a nation. It is one of the things you guys continuously spout about and partially refer to with your rights. For me, seeing it was a spiritual experience as well as an intellectual one. For those of you who went, please post that you did. And I do not lump you in the group I am talking about next, Ihold you in high esteem. For anyone else who did not, I lost all respect for you, this board and this movement. If you didnt make the time to go, you should not have the privilege to use the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence or any other historical document to back up your sill little OC fantasy. Hows this for "educating", those of you who didnt go, are ignorant imbeciles who dont appreciate what you use. I equate you to smarmy politicians who say what everyone wantsto hear, but once you make your point, you lie and backspin your way out of it,How about you start OCing the Bill of Rights at your next meet-up, maybe you can sway your comrades into being more than just little OC lemmings, really practicing what you preach. Ireally was behind your movement, just not how it was executed. Now I am not for you individuals. Shame on you, for you have spit on your country. Hows that for education UTAH OCers?
This sort of rantexposes the soul of the author.
The depth of the bitterness andthe breadth of the assigned error show much more than alack of regard for one's fellow human beings. It dives below mere callousness.
How much more right than other people does one have to consider oneselfin order to arrive at such an opinion?
Its not French. Its Nitrovic-ian, and I'm starting to seeparallels here.
Bravo. I read it twice, very eloquent. (not being sarcastic at all.)33itmefs wrote:I am so thoroughly disgusted and disillusioned that only 3 or 4 of you responded to this post. I didnt see one OCer there in my 5 or 6 hours there, and trust me I looked. This document set us apart as a nation. It is one of the things you guys continuously spout about and partially refer to with your rights. For me, seeing it was a spiritual experience as well as an intellectual one. For those of you who went, please post that you did. And I do not lump you in the group I am talking about next, Ihold you in high esteem. For anyone else who did not, I lost all respect for you, this board and this movement. If you didnt make the time to go, you should not have the privilege to use the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence or any other historical document to back up your sill little OC fantasy. Hows this for "educating", those of you who didnt go, are ignorant imbeciles who dont appreciate what you use. I equate you to smarmy politicians who say what everyone wantsto hear, but once you make your point, you lie and backspin your way out of it,How about you start OCing the Bill of Rights at your next meet-up, maybe you can sway your comrades into being more than just little OC lemmings, really practicing what you preach. Ireally was behind your movement, just not how it was executed. Now I am not for you individuals. Shame on you, for you have spit on your country. Hows that for education UTAH OCers?
This sort of rantexposes the soul of the author.
The depth of the bitterness andthe breadth of the assigned error show much more than alack of regard for one's fellow human beings. It dives below mere callousness.
How much more right than other people does one have to consider oneselfin order to arrive at such an opinion?
Its not French. Its Nitrovic-ian, and I'm starting to seeparallels here.
I personally object tosuch derogation of my allies in another state.
SNIP Certain members of society NEED more specific instructions!!!!
33itmefs wrote:I am so thoroughly disgusted and disillusioned that only 3 or 4 of you responded to this post. I didnt see one OCer there in my 5 or 6 hours there, and trust me I looked. This document set us apart as a nation. It is one of the things you guys continuously spout about and partially refer to with your rights. For me, seeing it was a spiritual experience as well as an intellectual one. For those of you who went, please post that you did. And I do not lump you in the group I am talking about next, Ihold you in high esteem. For anyone else who did not, I lost all respect for you, this board and this movement. If you didnt make the time to go, you should not have the privilege to use the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence or any other historical document to back up your sill little OC fantasy. Hows this for "educating", those of you who didnt go, are ignorant imbeciles who dont appreciate what you use. I equate you to smarmy politicians who say what everyone wantsto hear, but once you make your point, you lie and backspin your way out of it,How about you start OCing the Bill of Rights at your next meet-up, maybe you can sway your comrades into being more than just little OC lemmings, really practicing what you preach. Ireally was behind your movement, just not how it was executed. Now I am not for you individuals. Shame on you, for you have spit on your country. Hows that for education UTAH OCers?
So what you are REALLY saying is that due the fact that a person didn't make it due to prior engagement, couldn't afford the gas, whatever their personal reasons THEY are NOT American anymore.
For your information, I became a U.S Citizen back on Jan 14th 2008. I did it due to the fact that I am proud of this Nation and it's Constitution. I believe the Declaration of Independence is Highly Spiritually Inspired Document of a Very Great Nation. I do NOT take lightly the Citizenship.
Why do you think that I went infront of the West Valley City, being a recent Sworn in U.S Citizen, to make them understand that the Police Force swears to UPHOLD BOTH U.S AND UTAH Constitution.
I take it all very serious. And tosay tothe People that did NOT make it "For anyone else who did not, I lost all respect for you, this board and this movement.""If you didnt make the time to go, you should not have the privilege to use the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence or any other historical document to back up your sill little OC fantasy ."
Why don't you just read your own post again and just REALIZE how stupid it is.
TJ
Hey, time to get a life there. You haven't got enough friends on this list to be insulting and alienating everyone.I am so thoroughly disgusted and disillusioned that only 3 or 4 of you responded to this post. I didnt see one OCer there in my 5 or 6 hours there, and trust me I looked. This document set us apart as a nation. It is one of the things you guys continuously spout about and partially refer to with your rights. For me, seeing it was a spiritual experience as well as an intellectual one. For those of you who went, please post that you did. And I do not lump you in the group I am talking about next, Ihold you in high esteem. For anyone else who did not, I lost all respect for you, this board and this movement. If you didnt make the time to go, you should not have the privilege to use the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence or any other historical document to back up your sill little OC fantasy. Hows this for "educating", those of you who didnt go, are ignorant imbeciles who dont appreciate what you use. I equate you to smarmy politicians who say what everyone wantsto hear, but once you make your point, you lie and backspin your way out of it,How about you start OCing the Bill of Rights at your next meet-up, maybe you can sway your comrades into being more than just little OC lemmings, really practicing what you preach. Ireally was behind your movement, just not how it was executed. Now I am not for you individuals. Shame on you, for you have spit on your country. Hows that for education UTAH OCers?
Agreed! Perhaps it should also be noted that the real intrinsic value of the document is in the message, not the parchment and ink.This sort of rantexposes the soul of the author.
The depth of the bitterness andthe breadth of the assigned error show much more than alack of regard for one's fellow human beings. It dives below mere callousness.
How much more right than other people does one have to consider oneselfin order to arrive at such an opinion?
Its not French. Its Nitrovic-ian, and I'm starting to seeparallels here.
I personally object tosuch derogation of my allies in another state.