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    Per recommendation of the members here, and since I just got my first paycheck from MS, I just bought my Blackhawk Serpa L2 holster.

    Now, to get a CPL and find a meetup that's close enough I can reach by bike/bus.

    Question regarding CPL: I see that the application asks if you've been a resident for more than 90 days. Apart from the "up to 60 day wait time" is there any disadvantage to that? Should I wait 90 days?

    Thanks.
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    Well, if you've been in the state less than 60 days, then go ahead right away. In that case the worst-case wait time (60 days for non- or short-term residents) is less than 30+ days until you've been here for 90, plus the 30-day max wait for residents.

    Other than the waiting period, the only other distinction that the RCW makes between in-state and out-of-state (or just-arrived) applicants is that residents must apply to their local law-enforcement agency (non-residents can apply to any agency) so be sure to do that (i.e. don't go apply at Kitsap County just because they seem to issue them faster than King County.)

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    kparker wrote:
    (i.e. don't go apply at Kitsap County just because they seem to issue them faster than King County.)
    Why not? There is nothing illegal about him going to Kitsap in this case. You seem to want to delay his getting his permit, why?

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    If you (or, more to the point, he) thinks he can still apply as a non-resident while giving an in-state address, be my guest.

    Otherwise, the prudent applicant will note RCW 9.41.070 (13) which states:

    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license: (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality; (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.

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    kparker wrote:
    If you (or, more to the point, he) thinks he can still apply as a non-resident while giving an in-state address, be my guest.

    Otherwise, the prudent applicant will note RCW 9.41.070 (13) which states:

    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license: (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality; (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
    I will agree with this. If he is giving a in state address he would be required to apply in his local county or municipality.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:
    kparker wrote:
    If you (or, more to the point, he) thinks he can still apply as a non-resident while giving an in-state address, be my guest.

    Otherwise, the prudent applicant will note RCW 9.41.070 (13) which states:

    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license: (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality; (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
    I will agree with this. If he is giving a in state address he would be required to apply in his local county or municipality.
    Ahhh, but under 90 days the state issaying you are not a resident. Besides that, what the hell is the purpose of a waiting period, other than to deny on the rights? Either you live here or you don't.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    kparker wrote:
    If you (or, more to the point, he) thinks he can still apply as a non-resident while giving an in-state address, be my guest.

    Otherwise, the prudent applicant will note RCW 9.41.070 (13) which states:

    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license: (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality; (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
    I will agree with this. If he is giving a in state address he would be required to apply in his local county or municipality.
    Ahhh, but under 90 days the state issaying you are not a resident. Besides that, what the hell is the purpose of a waiting period, other than to deny on the rights? Either you live here or you don't.
    It doesn't say you are a non-resident before 90 days Bear. It says that if you have not been a resident in the state for the last 90 consecutive days or do not have a Wa. DL or ID then the issuing authority can delay the issuance for up to 60 days.

    I believe they code is written this way because up until a few years ago, maybe even now still, not all authorities submitted criminal info to NICS. My mom used to run people for these for Everett PD and there were a few times that they would get info back from another states about a felony conviction after 30 days. Then the would have to send officers out to yank the permit which put them at a serious disadvantage because sometimes it was a couple weeks before they got the info about the person they issued a permit to and the person had quite a bit of time to "legally" purchase firearms.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    kparker wrote:
    If you (or, more to the point, he) thinks he can still apply as a non-resident while giving an in-state address, be my guest.

    Otherwise, the prudent applicant will note RCW 9.41.070 (13) which states:

    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license: (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality; (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
    I will agree with this. If he is giving a in state address he would be required to apply in his local county or municipality.
    Ahhh, but under 90 days the state issaying you are not a resident. Besides that, what the hell is the purpose of a waiting period, other than to deny on the rights? Either you live here or you don't.
    It doesn't say you are a non-resident before 90 days Bear. It says that if you have not been a resident in the state for the last 90 consecutive days or do not have a Wa. DL or ID then the issuing authority can delay the issuance for up to 60 days.

    I believe they code is written this way because up until a few years ago, maybe even now still, not all authorities submitted criminal info to NICS. My mom used to run people for these for Everett PD and there were a few times that they would get info back from another states about a felony conviction after 30 days. Then the would have to send officers out to yank the permit which put them at a serious disadvantage because sometimes it was a couple weeks before they got the info about the person they issued a permit to and the person had quite a bit of time to "legally" purchase firearms.
    So you are saying it is OK for the stateto infringe on my rights as a citizen, because government does a poor job? I don't think so.

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    Oh god no. I don't think that at all Bear, I am just reading what it says and trying to give evidence of why they might be doing it.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:
    Oh god no. I don't think that at all Bear, I am just reading what it says and trying to give evidence of why they might be doing it.
    But any justifing of the government doing illegal things, encouraged them to continue doing and adding other illegal things to the it's OK to do list.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    Oh god no. I don't think that at all Bear, I am just reading what it says and trying to give evidence of why they might be doing it.
    But any justifing of the government doing illegal things, encouraged them to continue doing and adding other illegal things to the it's OK to do list.
    I agree with you Bear. I don't think it is right what they are doing nor why they are doing it. Like I said before I am against all restrictions on firearms except possession by felons.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    Hopefully the OP has better reading comprehension, or is less fond of recreational arguing, and notices the point is:

    What happens if he applies in Pt Orchard and gives a Redmond address as his location?
    If they don't kick the application back to him and say, "Sorry, you need to apply to Redmond Police or King County Sheriff", then they aren't even doing their job--it means they didn't even bother to read his address!



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    kparker wrote:
    Hopefully the OP has better reading comprehension, or is less fond of recreational arguing, and notices the point is:
    What happens if he applies in Pt Orchard and gives a Redmond address as his location?
    If they don't kick the application back to him and say, "Sorry, you need to apply to Redmond Police or King County Sheriff", then they aren't even doing their job--it means they didn't even bother to read his address!

    Absolutely. That is why I posted this:

    If he is giving a in state address he would be required to apply in his local county or municipality.

    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    Ack, no need to argue. I'm without vehicle, anyway, and about a block and a half from the Bellevue PD, so it's just easier to go there, anyway. Thanks for the info though, now to call and figure out when they do finger prints and such.
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