murphyslaw
State Researcher
imported post
There is a few laws on the books in Palmer that we all know are in violation of the state pre-emption. so who can we start to complain to and what can we do to get these changed.....
9.73.020 Carrying weapons prohibited when.
A.It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to carry in the city a concealed weapon on or about his or her person in any manner.
(so unless you are a officer of a state or city agency you man not CC in palmer)
B.It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to openly carry a firearm in any of the following places:
1.A premises licensed under AS 04.11 (alcoholic beverages), to include without limitation, a restaurant or eating place holding such a license;
(this is a restriction on the right to open carry, this requires we CC in restaurants that serves beer.)
2.A building housing government offices only, to include without limitation a courthouse;
3.A government office;
4.A hospital;
5.A school;
6.A child care facility;
7.A domestic violence center;
8.A sexual assault shelter;
9.A city-owned public park; (don't remember seeing this on the state books)
10.A fair grounds; and (dont remember seeing this on the state books)
11.A financial institution, to include a bank, savings bank, savings association, and credit union. (there is no such regulation at the state level for this)
(This entire section above says we can not open carry, but implies we much CC)
C.It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to openly carry a weapon other than a firearm in any place listed in subsection (B) of this section and in any other public place. (meaning no knifes?)
D.Nothing in subsections (B) or (C) of this section shall be construed to prohibit:
1.The transport of unloaded firearms or the open transport of other weapons;
2.The owning or possessing of weapons in one’s own residence;
3.The open carrying of unloaded firearms or other weapons at a show for such weapons, e.g., a gun show; provided, that the carrying is done in conformity with the rules or procedures of the sponsor of the show;
4.The open carrying of a weapon in a place of business which deals with such type of weapon where the carrier intends to use the services of the business, e.g., carrying of a knife in a store that sells or services knives;
5.The open carrying of a weapon in a place by an owner, or employee or other agent of an owner, where the carrying is authorized by the owner and the weapon is used as a tool of the trade by such place, e.g., a knife in a restaurant;
6.The open carrying of a weapon in a place by an owner, or employee or agent of an owner, where the carrying is authorized by the owner and the weapon is used for the security of the owner, occupants, or the place; and
7.The carrying of a hunting knife carried in a sheath attached to the belt or other accessory of dress and openly displayed; provided, that this exception shall not apply at a domestic violence center, a sexual assault shelter, or a fair grounds.
E.Nothing in subsections (A) or (B) of this section shall be construed to prohibit the carrying of a concealed handgun in accordance with Alaska statutes by a person issued and carrying a valid permit under said statutes.
F.Anyone violating the provisions of this chapter shall be deemed an ordinance violator. (Ord. 519 § 4, 1997)
There is a few laws on the books in Palmer that we all know are in violation of the state pre-emption. so who can we start to complain to and what can we do to get these changed.....
9.73.020 Carrying weapons prohibited when.
A.It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to carry in the city a concealed weapon on or about his or her person in any manner.
(so unless you are a officer of a state or city agency you man not CC in palmer)
B.It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to openly carry a firearm in any of the following places:
1.A premises licensed under AS 04.11 (alcoholic beverages), to include without limitation, a restaurant or eating place holding such a license;
(this is a restriction on the right to open carry, this requires we CC in restaurants that serves beer.)
2.A building housing government offices only, to include without limitation a courthouse;
3.A government office;
4.A hospital;
5.A school;
6.A child care facility;
7.A domestic violence center;
8.A sexual assault shelter;
9.A city-owned public park; (don't remember seeing this on the state books)
10.A fair grounds; and (dont remember seeing this on the state books)
11.A financial institution, to include a bank, savings bank, savings association, and credit union. (there is no such regulation at the state level for this)
(This entire section above says we can not open carry, but implies we much CC)
C.It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to openly carry a weapon other than a firearm in any place listed in subsection (B) of this section and in any other public place. (meaning no knifes?)
D.Nothing in subsections (B) or (C) of this section shall be construed to prohibit:
1.The transport of unloaded firearms or the open transport of other weapons;
2.The owning or possessing of weapons in one’s own residence;
3.The open carrying of unloaded firearms or other weapons at a show for such weapons, e.g., a gun show; provided, that the carrying is done in conformity with the rules or procedures of the sponsor of the show;
4.The open carrying of a weapon in a place of business which deals with such type of weapon where the carrier intends to use the services of the business, e.g., carrying of a knife in a store that sells or services knives;
5.The open carrying of a weapon in a place by an owner, or employee or other agent of an owner, where the carrying is authorized by the owner and the weapon is used as a tool of the trade by such place, e.g., a knife in a restaurant;
6.The open carrying of a weapon in a place by an owner, or employee or agent of an owner, where the carrying is authorized by the owner and the weapon is used for the security of the owner, occupants, or the place; and
7.The carrying of a hunting knife carried in a sheath attached to the belt or other accessory of dress and openly displayed; provided, that this exception shall not apply at a domestic violence center, a sexual assault shelter, or a fair grounds.
E.Nothing in subsections (A) or (B) of this section shall be construed to prohibit the carrying of a concealed handgun in accordance with Alaska statutes by a person issued and carrying a valid permit under said statutes.
F.Anyone violating the provisions of this chapter shall be deemed an ordinance violator. (Ord. 519 § 4, 1997)
