Jizzzle
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I am stationed atHolloman AFBin Alamogordo NM.I open carry as much as possible. I have a Walther P99QA .40 as my concealed/open carry weapon. I was at the theater watching a movie with a buddyand the movie was just about to start whenI see 7 police officers come into the theater and start looking for someone/something. The manager of the theater was over by the door also scanning the crowd for something. He looked at me and pointed in my direction and the police officers converged on me.
They asked me if I was armed and I told them that yes I was. They told me to keep my hands where they could see them and stand up. I complied. Next thing I know I had an officer on each of my arms each with a wrist lock. They pulled my out of the theater and then proceded to try to remove the gun from it's holster (a regular phobus paddle holster), I told them, "Just pull up on it" and they finally where able to remove it (I'm not sure why it was so difficult for them). Anyway, I told them, "there is one in the chamber, please be careful" and the police officer with the weapon has to hand the weapon to one of his buddies to assist him with clearing it and dropping the magazine (it's just a p99... its really easy). The cop then takes my ID from my wallet and they release me but put me face to the wall and search me fully then turn me back around.
The cop on my left asks me why I am carrying a handgun in public. I respond "because it's my right to". Man did he not like that at all.. he ended up repeating that question to me about 10 more times with the same response while the officer next to him asked me 1.If I thought I was going to get into a shoot out in broad daylight. 2. Did I realize that there where children present at the theater. 3. What happens if one of them run up to me and try to take it from me and someone gets hurt. 4. (and my favorite) What if someone got mad at someone else in the theater and wanted to shoot them so they took my gun and killed someone else with it. 5. How would that make me feel. So I told him "Nope, I don't expect to get into a shoot out. Yes I realize that there are childeren in the theater and no I don't think that there will be an issue with one of them coming and taking it from me to play with it. You guys had enough issues getting it outta the holster in the first place. And if someone wants to some into the theater and shoot someone, they are gonna bring thier own gun, they arn't gonna bank on the hope of someone being there with one already that they can hopefully take and use. They will probably hope that nobody has one because it would turn into a bad day for them."The police of course didn't enjoy any of this, but to be honestI wasn't really enjoying myself much at the moment either and I was getting sort of pissed off after the 10th time that the cop to my left asks me "so, uh, why do you have a gun on you?". At that point, the cop who was running my ID (I'm active military in the USAF and thats the ID they where running) came back and said that everything was clean. I asked him what I had done wrong since I was fully within my right to carry in that theater. They ignored that question and he then asked me "so if I called your first sergeant right now, what would he say?". He was trying to intimidate me now I guess. I told him, "call him up, I'll give you the phone number". He declined the offer.
They said that the manager of the movie theater had called them and that just because I was there with a weapon on my hip in plain veiw, he considered it a threat and they had to respond. Then they asked me why I was irritated, didn't I expect stuff like this to happen if I was going to open carry in public. At this point I just held my tongue, I was pretty irate. They said that as long as the side arm was on me the manager of the theater was refusing me service and I had to leave the property. I said ok, fine, gimme my gun back and I'll put it in the truck so I can watch the damn movie. They said no they would put it into my truck for me, like it made any difference. Anyway longer story short, they follow me to my truck and made sure I stowed it out of sight inside the vehicle and then let me go. This is some seriously annoying stuff, I know all the gun laws for the states that I'm stationed in and the laws for the states that border the states that I'm stationed in. I stay educated cause its a responsibility of everyone to do so, everyone apparently but police. They didn't even have a clue that NM was an open carry state until they called the dispatch after I informed them of it. WOW. Does it get any better than this?
I am stationed atHolloman AFBin Alamogordo NM.I open carry as much as possible. I have a Walther P99QA .40 as my concealed/open carry weapon. I was at the theater watching a movie with a buddyand the movie was just about to start whenI see 7 police officers come into the theater and start looking for someone/something. The manager of the theater was over by the door also scanning the crowd for something. He looked at me and pointed in my direction and the police officers converged on me.
They asked me if I was armed and I told them that yes I was. They told me to keep my hands where they could see them and stand up. I complied. Next thing I know I had an officer on each of my arms each with a wrist lock. They pulled my out of the theater and then proceded to try to remove the gun from it's holster (a regular phobus paddle holster), I told them, "Just pull up on it" and they finally where able to remove it (I'm not sure why it was so difficult for them). Anyway, I told them, "there is one in the chamber, please be careful" and the police officer with the weapon has to hand the weapon to one of his buddies to assist him with clearing it and dropping the magazine (it's just a p99... its really easy). The cop then takes my ID from my wallet and they release me but put me face to the wall and search me fully then turn me back around.
The cop on my left asks me why I am carrying a handgun in public. I respond "because it's my right to". Man did he not like that at all.. he ended up repeating that question to me about 10 more times with the same response while the officer next to him asked me 1.If I thought I was going to get into a shoot out in broad daylight. 2. Did I realize that there where children present at the theater. 3. What happens if one of them run up to me and try to take it from me and someone gets hurt. 4. (and my favorite) What if someone got mad at someone else in the theater and wanted to shoot them so they took my gun and killed someone else with it. 5. How would that make me feel. So I told him "Nope, I don't expect to get into a shoot out. Yes I realize that there are childeren in the theater and no I don't think that there will be an issue with one of them coming and taking it from me to play with it. You guys had enough issues getting it outta the holster in the first place. And if someone wants to some into the theater and shoot someone, they are gonna bring thier own gun, they arn't gonna bank on the hope of someone being there with one already that they can hopefully take and use. They will probably hope that nobody has one because it would turn into a bad day for them."The police of course didn't enjoy any of this, but to be honestI wasn't really enjoying myself much at the moment either and I was getting sort of pissed off after the 10th time that the cop to my left asks me "so, uh, why do you have a gun on you?". At that point, the cop who was running my ID (I'm active military in the USAF and thats the ID they where running) came back and said that everything was clean. I asked him what I had done wrong since I was fully within my right to carry in that theater. They ignored that question and he then asked me "so if I called your first sergeant right now, what would he say?". He was trying to intimidate me now I guess. I told him, "call him up, I'll give you the phone number". He declined the offer.
They said that the manager of the movie theater had called them and that just because I was there with a weapon on my hip in plain veiw, he considered it a threat and they had to respond. Then they asked me why I was irritated, didn't I expect stuff like this to happen if I was going to open carry in public. At this point I just held my tongue, I was pretty irate. They said that as long as the side arm was on me the manager of the theater was refusing me service and I had to leave the property. I said ok, fine, gimme my gun back and I'll put it in the truck so I can watch the damn movie. They said no they would put it into my truck for me, like it made any difference. Anyway longer story short, they follow me to my truck and made sure I stowed it out of sight inside the vehicle and then let me go. This is some seriously annoying stuff, I know all the gun laws for the states that I'm stationed in and the laws for the states that border the states that I'm stationed in. I stay educated cause its a responsibility of everyone to do so, everyone apparently but police. They didn't even have a clue that NM was an open carry state until they called the dispatch after I informed them of it. WOW. Does it get any better than this?