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    VCDL Update 8/19/08 - "Defending your right to defend yourself."

    1. ACTION ITEM: Virginia Crime Commission to consider referred gun
    show bill September 9th!
    2. CHP renewal correction
    3. Glen Yates: Protect your family, lose your freedom
    4. VCDL member ambushed at home
    5. BB&T employee refuses to notarize CHP renewal
    6. Fallen officer remembered with candlelight vigil
    7. LTE: The cost of freedom
    8. Federal judge: No guns at Atlanta airport
    9. Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial on Atlanta airport ruling
    10.'s page on the litigation
    11. Texas school district gets it right, permits teacher carry
    12. Who needs a gun at the Olympics?
    13. Who needs a gun in a National Park? (TN)
    14. Democrats ban talk of guns at convention's "Town Hall"
    15. Gun shows and events!

    1. ACTION ITEM: Virginia Crime Commission to consider referred gun
    show bill September 9th!

    As you may recall when anti-gun Senator Henry Marsh's gun show bill
    was in the Senate Courts of Justice committee earlier this year, the
    bill was killed.

    In committee, Senator Marsh threw a hissy fit over the bill dying. In
    order to calm him down the committee ended up referring the bill to
    the Crime Commission for further study.

    Well, the Crime Commission is going to meet at 10:00 AM on Tuesday,
    September 9th in Senate Room A in the General Assembly Building. Gun
    owners need to be there to make it known that we vehemently oppose
    Senator Mash's bill (SB 109)!

    The anti's are trying to get a lot of their members to attend and we
    need to outnumber them!

    I will be there with with large orange Guns Save Lives stickers to
    hand out to those of you who are planning on being there.

    2. CHP renewal correction

    VCDL EM Ron Hyson suggested I make a clarification to the new CHP
    renewal procedures I described in last week's update and so I shall.

    You only have to renew your CHP between 90 and 180 day ahead of
    expiration IF you want your new permit's effective date to begin on
    the date the old permit expires.

    You can renew with less than 90 days before expiration, but your new
    permit will probably have an effective date that is before your old
    permit expires, costing you to lose some days or weeks off your old

    At a minimum you should renew at least 45 days before expiration as
    the Court has that long to issue your new permit.

    3. Glen Yates: Protect your family, lose your freedom

    I don't know any more about this case than what Mr. Yates says below.
    I don't know if there was any mitigating circumstance that forced him
    to plead guilty. But once you do so and are convicted, it is hard to
    get your case reheard later.
    Glenn M. Yates Jr.
    Published: August 8, 2008

    Imagine working every day to support your family. Obeying the law,
    living without a criminal record. Married to the woman you've been
    involved with since 1999. Imagine this woman having your children and
    living a Christian lifestyle.

    Now imagine three violent felons with extensive criminal records
    coming to your home on a rainy day, with the stated intent of killing
    you, hurting your family and abducting your children. Imagine you are
    the only thing that stands between your family and these aggressors.
    Then, you're blindsided, eye swollen and hurt. You call out for these
    criminals to leave. No one listens and you see anger in their eyes.

    Desperately you fire a legal weapon, wounding one of the assailants.
    Do you finish him off? No, you render first aid, you call the police
    and basically save the life of your assailant.

    Now imagine when the police arrive, from your own phone call, you are
    charged as the criminal. You are read your rights. You are charged
    with three felonies ranging from 27 years to life.

    You are taken from your family in handcuffs. You are placed at the
    mercy of a system you know nothing about because you have never before
    been in trouble.

    Now stop imagining because all that you've read has happened to me. On
    Sept. 26, I was wrongfully convicted after being coerced by a court-
    appointed counsel and the commonwealth's attorney's office. I was
    given a sentence of 30 years, with 20 suspended.

    Keep in mind that I have had employment since 11 years old, went to
    Culinary School after graduation and have four small children, ages 6,
    4, 2, and 6 months old.

    You would think that truth, protection and rights would prevail in
    this matter. No, it's just more of the lies and wrongful protection
    we've seen in the past. Only in Culpeper would a man protecting his
    home and family receive a greater sentence than known drug dealers,
    pedophiles and molesters.

    My wife is forced to use food stamps and public assistance to support
    our children. In this, my family is made to be a burden to the good
    people of Virginia, making you also the victim of this wrongful

    As an American citizen, you have the right to bear arms. I had a
    legal, registered firearm. I was at my home defending my family and
    myself. I was raised to tell the truth, which I did, and was punished
    for it. Not being a criminal and having been focused on raising our
    children, I was incompetent of the law, and the commonwealth took
    advantage of this.

    The transcripts are on the record; look at the facts.

    Please, my good people of the home I've known for 20 years: Write to
    the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office or myself; write to local
    organizations or churches to bring attention to this great injustice.
    I'm not asking for just myself, but for my four beautiful children.

    I truly believe the Lord prevails in all situations of my life.

    Glenn M. Yates Jr. is a resident of Culpeper.

    Editor's note: Yates pleaded guilty to aggravated malicious wounding.
    His case has been appealed to the Virginia Supreme Court.

    4. VCDL member ambushed at home

    I received this letter from a member in Hopewell. I'm glad he is OK,
    but it is another example of how crime happens when you least expect
    it and why I am always armed whenever possible. It also shows that it
    is a good idea to be alert when you come home to an 'empty' house.



    I'm writing this to let the VCDL community know that one cannot be too

    Friday, August 8th, I came home from work at about 2:40 p.m. I
    unlocked the front door and noticed that the alarm was not on. My
    daughter must have forgot to turn it on when she left earlier. Usually
    when I enter the house, my two cats are waiting on me and want me to
    pet them. Well, one acted normal and the other one came to me and then
    immediately ran behind and underneath the couch (a sign I missed). I
    laid my motorcycle helmet down and took off my riding pants and jacket.

    I tried to call a friend on my cell phone. Then I tried to chirp
    another friend on the Nextel. I picked up my helmet, as it had fallen
    off of the motorcycle and I had to wipe it off. I carried it and the
    Nextel as I went from the living room into the hallway.

    Well, this is where things went downhill. Four young men jumped me,
    beat me, and threw me to the ground. They handcuffed me, taped my legs
    together, then picked me up and, with a gun to my head, forced me to
    open my safe (which only held ammo and mags). Then they pushed me into
    my bedroom and forced me to open three small, pistol-size safes (one
    of which contained my loaded Glock 27).

    They then asked me where the guns were (while hitting me and pointing
    the gun at me). I told them the guns were in the safe in the basement.
    They then dragged me to the basement steps and I managed to get down
    by myself (one scumbag suggested to another to push me down).

    I opened the safe and they put me in my food closet (old half bath),
    and pushed the chest freezer against it. After I did not hear them, I
    cut the tape off of my legs (I had my box cutter clipped in my right
    pocket). I forced the door open and escaped through the basement
    (cellar) door and ran to the house behind me (I live on a corner).

    They made off with 22 guns: 5 AR-15s, 2 SKSs, 4 Glocks, 6 S&W
    revolvers, and a few others.

    Not a good day.

    However, I am happy to have lived through the ordeal. My left eye was
    beaten, but it should be fine.

    5. BB&T employee refuses to notarize CHP renewal

    Here is a copy of a letter that a gun owner sent to BB&T last week.
    Perhaps Virginia should revoke Ms. Bocckinfuso's Notary Public status
    for not notarizing a legal document that she didn't agree with:


    August 7, 2008

    Doug P. Hackett
    310 First St 2nd Floor
    Roanoke, VA 24011-1929

    Dear Mr. Hackett:

    I recently had an incident at the Westlake Branch of BB&T on Booker T.
    Washington Highway in Hardy, Va. I would like to make you aware of the
    circumstances surrounding this incident.

    My husband and I went to the bank, he to do some transactions and me
    to have a paper notarized. I asked a woman by the name of Harriet
    Bocckinfuso (card attached) if she was a notary. She stated, "Yes,"
    and asked what would I need notarized. I stated, "Papers for my gun
    permit." She was visibly unsettled by my request and went into an
    office, spoke to someone, came back out and stated, "I don't feel
    comfortable signing this." I responded with, "Excuse me?" and she
    replied, "We don't feel comfortable." We left the bank and went across
    to Bank of America where we have another account, and within minutes
    it was notarized.

    Now let me mention this was for a renewal permit. I have been legally
    using firearms for 40 years. I have had permits in New York,
    Massachusetts, and New Hampshire and currently hold a valid out of
    state Connecticut gun permit as well as Virginia.

    Two days ago, I returned to the bank to get the business card and to
    ask Mrs. Bocckinfuso why she refused to sign the official document, as
    all she was asked to do was to verify my signature. She refused to
    give me a reason except to say "she didn't like the looks of the
    document." (Is she going to call Franklin County and tell them she
    doesn't approve of their legal document? I think not.)

    I feel that this was a personal issue, perhaps a dislike of firearms,
    which in any case should not be reflected in dealing with the daily
    business of the bank.

    I feel this individual has not acted in a professional manner and I
    would greatly appreciate a response.

    We will be closing our account at BB&T and transferring our account to
    Bank of America.

    Katrina D

    6. Fallen officer remembered with candlelight vigil

    Another sad reminder that there are some very evil people that will
    kill you in a heartbeat, with no remorse whatsoever. A Virginia Beach
    detective working undercover paid the ultimate price for being in
    contact with such scum.

    Our condolences go to Officer Phillips's family:
    Fallen officer remembered with candlelight vigil
    Last Edited: Monday, 11 Aug 2008, 10:24 PM EDT
    Created: Friday, 08 Aug 2008, 8:48 AM EDT

    VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. ( -- For the second time in a week,
    police cars surround the parking lot on Holland Road and Lynnhaven
    Parkway. The first time, it was to protect the integrity of a crime

    Now, it is to protect the memory of the officer who lost his life at
    the scene.

    Hundreds gathered around the makeshift memorial in the parking spot
    where Officer Michael Phillips was shot in an undercover drug bust.
    It was this circle of comfort that welcomed the family of the fallen
    officer as they made their way towards the center. His wife and his
    two boys.

    Left without a father, without a husband, and without a fellow police
    officer, it is the burning memory of a hero that warms them now, a
    memory the crowd will not let go out.

    Phillips' life as an undercover officer makes it difficult to find out
    too much about his job. But while his work is shrouded in secrecy,
    his memory will be carried with respect.


    Virginia Beach Police detective shot and killed during undercover

    VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. ( -- Police have released
    the names of the two suspects charged with killing Virginia Beach
    police detective Michael Smith Phillips.

    23-year-old Ted Carter and 26-year-old Marshall Moyd, both of the 900
    block of S. Clubhouse Road, are charged with First Degree Murder, Use
    of a Firearm in the Commission of a Felony and Conspiracy to Violate
    the Drug Conspiracy Act. They are expected in court for a hearing
    Friday afternoon.

    Police spokesman MPO Adam Bernstein told,
    Detective Phillips was a member of the Special Investigations
    Department for six years. He was shot and killed during an undercover
    operation. According to MPO Bernstein, Phillips also served for the
    Hampton Police Department for three years prior to joining VBPD in
    August 2002.

    Detective Phillips is survived by his wife and two sons, ages 12 and 8.

    The shooting happened at the Green Run Shopping Center parking lot on
    Holland Rd around 11:15 p.m., Bernstein said. "At some point during
    the operation the officer was shot." Rescue crews rushed to the scene,
    but the officer was pronounced dead.

    Police roped off nearly an entire block around the scene. "I heard a
    bunch of sirens, came out and saw about a million cops," one neighbor
    told For several hours police detoured traffic
    around the scene.

    Minutes after the shooting, officers took two men into custody in
    front of Zoots Dry Cleaners on Lynnhaven Blvd., around the corner from
    the originial crime scene. An SUV could be seen facing the wrong
    direction with its doors open.

    With heavy hearts, detectives searched for evidence to help them
    understand what led to the shooting. Bernstein did not provide details
    of the undercover operation. Other officers covered their badges with
    black stripes. "This is to honor and show respect for the officer and
    his family," Bernstein said. "This affects us all, not just in
    Virginia Beach, but nationwide."

    Bernstein told, Virginia Beach Police Chief Jake
    Jacocks delivered the sad news to the officer's wife and children.
    "It's the worst part of the chief's job - knocking on that door and
    telling his family this has happened."

    Shortly after sunrise Friday morning, a tow truck removed a blue
    pickup truck from the scene. The driver's window on the pickup had
    been shattered.

    According to the Officer Down Memorial Page, the Virginia Beach Police
    Department has had 10 officers killed in the Line of Duty, since 1923.
    That includes Officer Rodney Pocceschi, who was shot and killed on
    June 23, 2003, while making a traffic stop on Dam Neck road.

    7. LTE: The cost of freedom
    What price guns? Victims of violence
    August 13, 2008 12:15 am

    David R. Sadler's response ["Amrhine's views on guns ill-informed,"
    July 30] to Richard Amrhine's July 20 column has merit--most gun
    owners of this country would agree with it.

    Most amendments of the Bill of Rights have a cost to allow each
    freedom that is guaranteed. Free speech tolerates hurtful ideas.

    The issue is not if the gun was obtained legally or not. It is if we
    as a society are willing to sacrifice our family members to random
    acts of gun violence.

    The Second Amendment's cost is that there are victims of gun violence.
    That is the price American society pays for that freedom.

    For the families affected by gun violence, the price keeps increasing
    every year.

    Kevin Morrow

    8. Federal judge: No guns at Atlanta airport

    Another activist judge who wishes to make his own laws rather than
    interpret real laws:.

    While we can't carry in the non-sterile areas of airport terminals in
    Virginia (see the list at:, we
    can carry outside the terminal on public sidewalks, non-terminal
    buildings, parking lots, etc.

    We don't want activist judges or the TSA to strip away that right.

    In the future, we will work to get legislation passed to limit the gun
    ban to only the sterile areas of the airports.
    Federal judge: No guns at Atlanta airport
    By GREG BLUESTEIN - 4 days ago

    ATLANTA (AP) -- A federal judge on Monday upheld a gun ban at the
    world's busiest airport, dealing a blow to gun rights groups who
    argued a new Georgia law authorized them to pack heat in certain parts
    of the Atlanta airport.

    U.S. District Judge Marvin Shoob expressed concern that allowing guns
    at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport could cause
    significant economic damage and could be a "serious threat to public
    safety and welfare."

    His decision rejected a request by that would have
    temporarily allowed gun owners to carry their weapons in the airport
    until his final ruling on the gun ban -- a challenge that could likely
    last months.

    The legal showdown erupted when the state law that allows people with
    a concealed weapons permit to carry guns into restaurants, state parks
    and on public transportation took effect on July 1.

    City officials quickly declared the airport a "gun-free zone" and
    warned that anyone carrying a gun there would be arrested. sued the city and the airport, claiming that the
    airport qualifies as mass transportation under the new state law.
    Attorney John Monroe told the judge repeatedly that no law makes it a
    crime for residents with permits to bring their guns into terminals,
    parking lots and other unsecured areas.

    Gov. Sonny Perdue, who signed the bill into law in May, supports the
    lawsuit. The Republican suggested that his own wife might want to
    carry a firearm for long walks between the parking lot and the
    airport's terminal.

    City officials have angrily fired back, arguing that allowing some
    residents to carry guns at the airport could pose a dire threat to the
    millions of passengers it serves each year. Even an accidental firearm
    discharge, they say, could cause mayhem.

    "First, you're going to have a stampede," said Robert Kennedy, the
    airport's assistant general manager.

    Meanwhile, airport officials are quietly devising a backup plan.

    They have asked the Transportation Security Administration to amend
    the airport's federal security program so that guns are banned in all
    areas, including certain parking facilities.

    TSA officials said the agency is reviewing the request, the first such
    appeal it has ever received.

    Rep. Bennie Thompson, the chairman of the House Homeland Security
    Committee, has also urged the agency to strengthen its restrictions
    and warned that Congress could intervene if national regulations are
    not adopted.

    The judge's ruling was a defeat for, a two-year-old
    group that has won a string of victories reversing city and county
    firearm restrictions around the state.

    But state Rep. Tim Bearden, a Republican who co-sponsored the law,
    said it was only a temporary setback.

    "In the long run, the Constitution always prevails," said Bearden, a
    former police officer who wore a yellow tie imprinted with the
    document's words. "At least, it's supposed to."

    Associated Press Writer Ben Evans in Washington contributed to this

    9. Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial on Atlanta airport ruling
    Public safety first
    Judge's ruling keeps concealed weapons out of hectic mix at Hartsfield-

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Published on: 08/13/08

    When you go to Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, you can pack
    your ID, toothbrush and lunch.

    But you still can't pack heat.

    That was the verdict -- at least temporarily -- of U.S. District Judge
    Marvin Shoob, who denied a temporary injunction to prevent the city of
    Atlanta from enforcing its 30-year ban on concealed weapons at

    In a hearing, Shoob asked airport executives to describe what would
    happen if a firearm was discharged by accident in a crowded terminal.

    "First, we would have a stampede," testified airport official Robert
    Kennedy. Then the airport would be "frozen" as law enforcement
    responded. No flights would depart and passengers would be kept
    waiting for possibly hours.

    Such testimony led Shoob to rule against gun-rights group and state Rep. Timothy Bearden (R-Villa Rica) in
    their request for a preliminary injunction.

    In his decision, Shoob cut through the pro-gun rhetoric and sided with
    public safety: "Where there is any question as to whether the public
    safety and welfare is threatened, the court must rule on the side of
    that public interest." claims Atlanta's ban violates a new state law that
    allows Georgians with concealed weapons permits to bring weapons to
    state parks, restaurants that serve alcohol and on public
    transportation. contends that non-secure areas of the
    airport, including terminals, parking lots and baggage claim, qualify
    as public transportation. Atlanta disagrees that the airport was
    covered by the law.

    Shoob could have granted a preliminary injunction to
    only if he decided that the group had "a substantial likelihood" of
    winning once the full case is heard and decided. But as Shoob noted,
    it's a stretch to define an international airport as public
    transportation. (An airplane is a means of transportation; an airport
    is not.)

    Shoob treated other arguments offered by with equal
    skepticism, especially its insistence that concealed permit holders
    are vetted carefully by the state and pose no risk to Hartsfield's 90
    million annual passengers.

    As Shoob noted, "The only requirements to obtain a firearms license in
    Georgia are to pay a $15 fee and undergo a criminal background check
    and, at the discretion of the probate court, a mental health
    background check. There is no requirement that applicants demonstrate
    any proficiency in the handling of a firearm."

    Shoob also doubted that a state law -- passed in haste and without
    discussion by the Georgia General Assembly in its final hours -- would
    trump the many federal regulations that govern airports and airport
    safety, especially in the wake of 9/11.

    Although the full case must still be heard, such common-sense doubts
    would seem difficult to overcome.

    --Maureen Downey, for the editorial board

    10.'s page on the litigation

    11. Texas school district gets it right, permits teacher carry

    Hopefully this will spread across the nation in more and more schools:
    North Texas school district will let teachers carry guns
    Associated Press
    Aug. 15, 2008, 4:27P

    HARROLD, Texas -- A tiny Texas school district may be the first in the
    nation to allow teachers and staff to pack guns for protection when
    classes begin later this month, a newspaper reported.

    Trustees at the Harrold Independent School District approved a
    district policy change last October so employees can carry concealed
    firearms to deter and protect against school shootings, provided the
    gun-toting teachers follow certain requirements.

    In order for teachers and staff to carry a pistol, they must have a
    Texas license to carry a concealed handgun; must be authorized to
    carry by the district; must receive training in crisis management and
    hostile situations and have to use ammunition that is designed to
    minimize the risk of ricochet in school halls.

    Superintendent David Thweatt said the small community is a 30-minute
    drive from the sheriff's office, leaving students and teachers without
    protection. He said the district's lone campus sits 500 feet from
    heavily trafficked U.S. 287, which could make it a target.

    "When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones,
    that's when all of these shootings started. Why would you put it out
    there that a group of people can't defend themselves? That's like
    saying 'sic 'em' to a dog," Thweatt said in Friday's online edition of
    the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

    Thweatt said officials researched the policy and considered other
    options for about a year before approving the policy change. He said
    the district also has various other security measures in place to
    prevent a school shooting.

    "The naysayers think (a shooting) won't happen here. If something were
    to happen here, I'd much rather be calling a parent to tell them that
    their child is OK because we were able to protect them," Thweatt said.

    Texas law outlaws firearms on school campuses "unless pursuant to the
    written regulations or written authorization of the institution."

    It was unclear how many of the 50 or so teachers and staff members
    will be armed this fall because Thweatt did not disclose that
    information, to keep it from students or potential attackers.
    Wilbarger County Sheriff Larry Lee was out of the office Thursday and
    did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment, the newspaper

    Barbara Williams, a spokeswoman for the Texas Association of School
    Boards, said her organization did not know of another district with
    such a policy. Ken Trump, a Cleveland-based school security expert who
    advises districts nationwide, including in Texas, said Harrold is the
    first district with such a policy.

    The 110-student district is 150 miles northwest of Fort Worth on the
    eastern end of Wilbarger County, near the Oklahoma border.

    12. Who needs a gun at the Olympics?

    Gun free countries are so safe! Well, that's what the Dark Side is
    always telling us, anyway.


    Dale Welch writes:

    Man from Minnesota stabbed to death. China could not protect him. Why,
    I bet even the UN could not protect him.
    A dark turn in Beijing as U.S. Olympic tourist is killed
    Two relatives of a U.S. volleyball coach are stabbed by a Chinese man,
    who then commits suicide. Their tour guide is also wounded in the
    attack at a city landmark.
    By Mark Magnier and Evan Osnos
    Special to The Times

    August 10, 2008

    BEIJING -- In an incident that cast a shadow over the start of the
    Olympic Games here, a Chinese man armed with a knife Saturday attacked
    the parents of a former U.S. Olympic volleyball player and their
    Chinese tour guide, killing one of the Americans before committing

    Todd and Barbara Bachman, both 62, were stabbed at the 13th century
    Drum Tower, a landmark five miles from the Olympic village in a
    neighborhood of lakes, restaurants and bars popular with tourists. The
    attacker then jumped from the tower's second story, about 130 feet
    above street level.

    Black-clad commandos swarmed the area after the attack, which left
    Todd Bachman of Lakeville, Minn., dead and his wife in intensive care.
    Barbara Bachman, who suffered multiple stab wounds, was in critical
    but stable condition at a Beijing hospital after about eight hours of
    surgery. The couple's female guide was injured.

    Their daughter, Irvine resident Elisabeth "Wiz" Bachman McCutcheon, a
    member of the 2004 Olympic team, was with them at the time and watched
    the attack in horror. Her husband, Hugh McCutcheon, is the coach of
    the U.S. men's volleyball team competing here at the Summer Games, but
    after the attack, he did not plan to be on the bench today for the
    team's opening game against Venezuela.

    Chinese leaders have deployed more than 100,000 police officers and
    military personnel to safeguard the Games, in addition to several
    hundred thousand neighborhood watch volunteers. Xi Jinping, the
    presidential heir apparent, earlier said security would be a top
    barometer of the Games' success.

    Quoting Beijing police, the U.S. Olympic Committee said the assailant
    acted alone. His identity card listed him as Tang Yongming, 47, from
    the eastern province of Zhejiang, according to the official New China
    News Agency.

    Beijing and Shanghai have low crime rates for cities of their size,
    and attacks against foreigners are rare in China.

    "It's really sad after the celebration of the opening ceremonies,
    which were the best opening ceremonies I've ever been at," said Steve
    Penny, president of USA Gymnastics.

    Penny said he had spoken to team leaders and would talk to athletes'
    families but felt no fear about being identified as an American,
    adding that he would continue to wear the red-white-and-blue "USA" hat
    he had on.

    President Bush, in China for the Olympics, said he and First Lady
    Laura Bush were saddened by the attack.

    "Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. And
    the United States government has offered to provide any assistance the
    family needs," he told reporters.

    Todd Bachman, chief executive of a family-operated chain of garden
    centers and flower shops in Minnesota, and his wife are well-known in
    Southern California volleyball circles as boosters of the sport.
    Friends recalled the pair for their enduring support of their
    daughter's volleyball career at UCLA and when she joined the Olympic
    team in Athens four years ago.

    Elisabeth McCutcheon's former coach, Andy Banachowski, said his heart
    went out to her and her family.

    "The only comfort is that Wiz was not injured in the heinous attack,"
    Banachowski, who heads the UCLA women's volleyball team, said in a

    Banachowski called McCutcheon's parents "two of the most supportive
    and friendly people that I have ever encountered. . . . They love the
    sport and are beloved in the volleyball community."

    Details of the attack were sparse.

    A 40-year-old shopkeeper near the Drum Tower, who gave only her last
    name, Li, after police warned her not to talk, said she was watching a
    weightlifting competition on TV when she heard a commotion. On peeking
    outside, she saw the crumpled body of a man on the gray cobblestones
    in the tower complex, she said, and later learned that it was the body
    of the attacker.

    "I only saw the dead body," she said. "I didn't see anything else."

    Shortly after the attack, an estimated 300 security officers,
    including black-clad commandos, arrived, said two witnesses who
    declined to be identified, having been told by police not to speak to
    foreign reporters. The body was removed and the broken, bloodstained
    cobblestones were covered with sand.

    The state media, quoting police, said the attacker divorced in 2006,
    had a 21-year-old son and had no fixed address or job when he arrived
    in Beijing from the eastern city of Hangzhou on Aug. 1 after telling
    his landlord that he was moving for business. He had no criminal
    record and his motive was unknown, authorities said.

    The incident's timing and high-profile nature come at an awkward time.
    China has geared up its vast security apparatus, forced thousands of
    critics out of Beijing and spent record sums in a bid to pull off a
    perfect Olympics.

    "This is a very unfortunate incident," said Jin Canrong, an
    international relations professor at People's University in Beijing.
    "The Chinese government will try not to let this event have a serious
    impact on U.S.-China relations."

    In the short term, Chinese officials should cooperate fully with their
    U.S. counterparts on an investigation and in helping address the needs
    of grieving relatives, Jin said.

    Although some Chinese, particularly young male Internet users, bristle
    at perceived insults by Americans, many respect Americans, and most
    were pleased with Bush's decision to attend the Olympics.

    U.S. Olympic Committee spokesman Darryl Seibel said the victims wore
    nothing that identified them as Americans, adding that Chinese police
    have said they believe that it was a random act of violence. He said
    members of the men's volleyball team were shocked but planned to
    compete today; the USOC also had no plans to change its security

    "I'm saddened, but that doesn't make me think any less of this
    country," said Sydney Thayer, director of a small New York-based film
    company and a veteran of nine Olympics, who was in the audience of the
    fencing competition Saturday. "My feeling is that this has nothing to
    do with China."

    Longer term, however, the incident suggests that the government needs
    to address rising social tension in China's fast-changing society, Jin
    said. In recent weeks, the country has seen several violent outbursts,
    including last month's killing of six policemen in Shanghai by an
    attacker wielding a knife and the killing of seven people in a mob
    attack in Yunnan province in May, indicating growing frustration among
    those left behind by the market economy, he said.

    By late afternoon, new waves of tourists flocked to the Drum Tower
    area largely unaware of what had taken place a few hours earlier. The
    tower, built by Mongolian conquerors led by Kublai Khan, houses a
    collection of giant drums of the sort used to record the passage of
    time in China's last dynasty.

    Ryan Zweng, a 23-year-old San Francisco musician on his second visit
    to China, said the attack seemed utterly at odds with his experience.

    "China is the friendliest place for Americans that I've ever traveled.
    Period," he said. "Even after this, I still feel safer walking down
    the street in the middle of the night than I do in Philadelphia."

    Magnier is a Times staff writer and Osnos is a staff writer for the
    Chicago Tribune. Times staff writers Randy Harvey and Diane Pucin in
    Beijing and Louis Sahagun and Esmeralda Bermudez in Los Angeles, and
    Kevin Pang of the Tribune contributed to this report.

    13. Who needs a gun in a National Park? (TN)

    Thanks to David Neal for the link:
    Black bear attacks boy in Smokies; father also hurt

    By J.J. Stambaugh
    Tuesday, August 12, 2008
    Photo Gallery
    Boy attacked by bear in Smokies

    Eight year-old Evan Pala gets a kiss from father John Pala outside the
    Marriott Fairfield as they grant interviews to the media. Evan was
    attacked by a black bear while hiking near the Rainbow Falls trail in
    the Great Smoky Mountains National Park on Monday. The family was
    visiting Tennessee for the first time from Boca Raton, Florida.

    A black bear repeatedly mauled an 8-year-old boy Monday evening near a
    popular motor trail on the outskirts of Gatlinburg, and an animal
    matching its description was later killed by park rangers.

    The boy's father also was injured while successfully defending his son
    from the animal, said officials with the Great Smoky Mountains
    National Park, but none of their injuries were believed to be life-

    The dead bear was described as a "55-pound male yearling" that was
    probably born in the spring of 2007, according to park spokesman Bob
    Miller. Rangers were confident they'd bagged the right animal but
    won't know for sure until a necropsy is performed at the University of
    Tennessee, he said.

    The incident began about 7:30 p.m. when the boy, Evan Pala of Boca
    Raton, Fla., was playing in a creek about 300 yards from the trailhead
    of Rainbow Falls Trail, which is near the Roaring Fork Motor Nature
    Trail, Miller said.

    The bear apparently approached the boy and attacked him, was driven
    off and then came back for a second attack, Miller said.

    "Apparently the dad was able to drive the bear off both times with
    rocks and sticks," Miller said. "The child sustained some puncture
    wounds. They're probably not life-threatening, but they're pretty
    serious injuries."

    The boy's father, John Pala, also of Boca Raton, sustained several
    lacerations during the attacks. His wounds weren't as serious as his
    son's, and both went to Fort Sanders Sevier Medical Center for
    treatment, Miller said. They were released Monday night, spokeswoman
    Amanda Brabson said.

    "Apparently, these were pretty aggressive attacks," Miller said.
    "Sometimes a bear will swipe at somebody over food, but this was a bit
    more aggressive than that."

    Rangers who were scouring the area for the animal came across a young
    male bear near the attack scene that "approached them in an aggressive
    way," Miller said. The rangers then shot and killed the animal, he
    said, and found "a child's shoe and a cap."

    Miller said that circumstantial evidence supports the conclusion that
    the bear was the one that attacked the boy, but authorities won't know
    for certain until forensic evidence is gathered during the necropsy.

    Black bear attacks are rare, according to the North American Bear
    Center. Between 1900 and 2007, only 60 people were killed in black
    bear attacks across North America, and 45 of those deaths took place
    in Alaska or Canada, where there is usually little contact between the
    animals and people.

    In recent years, however, East Tennessee has seen two fatal black bear
    attacks. In 2000, an adult female black bear and a cub killed a Sevier
    County elementary school teacher while she was hiking along a trail in
    the Great Smoky Mountains. In April 2006 a black bear attacked an Ohio
    family near the summit of Chilhowee Mountain in the Cherokee National
    Forest, killing a 6-year-old girl and severely injuring her 2-year-old
    brother and mother.

    The Cherokee National Forest is home to about 1,500 of the bears, and
    the Great Smoky Mountains National Park is home to another 1,250,
    officials say.

    Some estimates have placed the black bear population in East Tennessee
    at about 3,000.

    This year, there have been several reports of black bears entering
    into urban areas in East Tennessee, including Knoxville and Oak Ridge,
    but until Monday there had been no recent reports of attacks on humans.

    J.J. Stambaugh may be reached at 865-342-6307.

    14. Democrats ban talk of guns at convention's "Town Hall"

    If you want to send in a submission to the "Town Hall" part of the
    Democratic Convention, you had best not be promoting gun ownership, as
    they classify that as offensive, obscene and inappropriate:

    "... Submissions must not: ... (iii) contain ... content
    promoting ... firearms, or weapons, .. or any other offensive,
    obscene, or inappropriate content;...."

    15. Gun shows and events! Norfolk show needs volunteers!

    The Virginia Citizens Defense League thanks the following member-
    activists who generously gave of their time to advance and help defend
    the rights of their fellow gun owners by working our recruiting and
    information booth at the C&E gun show in Richmond, July 12-13:

    Carl Shuler, Sue Brush, Debra & Brian Weidman, David Crosby, Paul
    Henick, Billy Donald, Owen Pollard, JC, Dale Walsh, and Audrey

    We also thank the volunteers at the C&E gun show in Salem, July 19-20:

    Sherrill Smith, Ken Modica, John Everett, Bruce Powers, Rodney
    Metheny, Joe Eiermann, Dave and Denise Knight, Kathy Smith, and Clint

    Finally, we would like to thank the volunteers at the C&E/Showmasters
    gun show in Chantilly, July 25-27:

    TJ Parmele, Ken Bullock, David Spencer, Jim Kiser, Jay & Margot
    Alexander, Ken Moore, Max Padon, Larry Riley, Thomas Love, Jerry
    Coffey, David Park, Daniel Paulson, and Dexter Guptill


    As an all volunteer organization, VCDL depends on YOU to volunteer
    your time at our area events, where we recruit new activists and keep
    gun owners informed. No experience necessary; if it's your first time
    we'll pair you with a veteran volunteer. To find out more about
    helping at our gun show tables, go to:

    and click on any of the blue links, or contact the coordinator for the
    show/event listed below with which you are interested in helping.

    Here are the upcoming events with which we need YOUR help:

    a. ROANOKE, August 16-17

    Saturday, August 16 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, August 17 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at to help in

    , SALEM CIVIC CENTER, August 22-24

    Friday, August 22 12:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. 4:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
    Saturday, August 23 10:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. 3:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
    Sunday, August 24 10:00 a.m. - 2:00 p.m. 2:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.

    The VCDL table is being paid for again by Grahme Anderson, Empire
    Siding And Windows, Roanoke. Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at
    to help at this big show in Salem.

    c. HARRISONBURG, August 23-24

    Saturday, August 23 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, August 24 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact Bob Schmidt at to help in

    d. NORFOLK, September 6-7 **Help needed

    Saturday, September 6 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 7 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ed Burton at to help at the
    Norfolk Scope.

    e. CHANTILLY, September 12-14

    Friday, September 12 3:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
    Saturday, September 13 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 14 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at
    to help in Chantilly.

    f. HAMPTON, September 20-21

    Saturday, September 20 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 21 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron Lilly at to help in

    g. FISHERSVILLE, September 27-28

    Saturday, September 27 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 28 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Bob Schmidt at to help in

    h. DALE CITY, October 4-5

    Saturday, October 4 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 5 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact TJ Parmele at to help in Dale City.

    i. SALEM, October 4-5

    Saturday, October 4 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 5 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at to help in Salem.

    j. VIRGINIA BEACH, October 11-12

    Saturday, October 11 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 12 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at to help in
    Virginia Beach.

    k. RICHMOND, October 18-19

    Saturday, October 18 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 19 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Contact Audrey Muehleisen at to help at the
    Showplace in Mechanicsville.

    l. FREDERICKSBURG, October 25-26

    Saturday, October 25 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 26 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Contact Robert Herron at to help in

    m. ROANOKE, October 25-26

    Saturday, October 25 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 26 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at to help in

    n. DALE CITY, November 1-2

    Saturday, November 1 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, November 2 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at
    to help in Dale City.

    o. NORFOLK, November 1-2

    Saturday, November 1 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, November 2 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ed Burton at to help at the
    Norfolk Scope.

    p. RICHMOND, November 15-16

    Saturday, November 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, November 16 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Contact Audrey Muehleisen at to help at the
    Richmond Raceway Complex.

    q. CHANTILLY, November 21-23

    Friday, November 21 3:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
    Saturday, November 22 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, November 23 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at
    to help in Chantilly.

    r. HAMPTON, November 29-30

    Saturday, November 29 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, November 30 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron Lilly at to help in

    VCDL's Gun Dealer Legal Defense Fund -- help fight Mayor Bloomberg's
    scheme to cripple Virginia firearms dealers. See:
    VCDL's meeting schedule:

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    Out of respect for the Democrat's wishes that no gun questions be asked at their Town Hall meeting, I decided to ask a question about the Constitution:
    I'd like to know exactly where Senator Obama stands on the Constitution, specifically the Second Amendment. His position on his website has been edited, and many Americanswish to hear his own words on this issue.

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