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    I've always liked the .22 in nearly all it's configuations, except maybe semi-jam, er, auto:PIt's cheap to shoot. A fella can go out and plink all afternoon for 10 bucks, and if you're paying attention to technique, you are picking up valuable trigger control that you can apply to the rest of your weapons. Now, if you're gonna shoot a mouse gun, you had best practice a controled, accurate double tapto the head, and then plan to empty the rest into the poor misunderstood punk. I don't like the semi-auto .22, ie, the small pocket autos. I have a S&W 317 AirLite that is very slim, weighs 10oz empty and slips into almost any pocket un-noticed. It's golf ball accurate at self defense range and has been my grouse gun for years while big game hunting. I guess I just like J Frames in general. I still carry the 317 sometimes even though I have a nice 640-3 (J Frame, DAO, Stainless, .357) that will pump 180grain hardcast 9" into a doug fir round; perfect for almost anything you might run into in the woods, two or four footed. Anyone else like their small pocket revolvers? J Frames Rule:celebrate

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    lol rib-tickler.

    I think I'm going to buy my mom a .22 WMR revolver as a starter gun. It may not be up to our more "robust" self-defense standards, but I say pity the fool who tries to mess with her!

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    marshaul wrote:
    lol rib-tickler.

    I think I'm going to buy my mom a .22 WMR revolver as a starter gun. It may not be up to our more "robust" self-defense standards, but I say pity the fool who tries to mess with her!
    I have a Single Six with boththe .22 and the .22 mag cyl. The difference is amazing between the regular and mag......I often think if I had to head out and go into survival mode, the Single Six would be the pistol I took along, along with a .22mag Winchester Lever. The one thing about that 317 I mentioned is a very hard double action pull.... A few monthes more, and I might be too old to use it that way

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    I think much of the derision of the .22 magnum comes from people who don't own a gun chambered for it, see ".22" and just assume.

    I have guns chambered for both .22LR and .22WMR. The first time I shot a varmit with the .22 mag (using JHP, no less) my initial reaction was something along the lines of :shock:.

    You do NOT want to take a .22 mag to the chest.

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    I have a J-frame in .357mag and I love it. It has to be my favoriteof all my firearms. Really, I will go for hours forgetting I have it on me, it is just that lite, and I do not worry about anyone seeing it in my pocket. I have even taken that thing with me where gun are not allowed or where i think it would be inappropriate to be found with a gun like Chunky Cheese.

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    There is a gentlemen that rents 4 tables at the gun show in Monroe. He shared his experience of a small 22 derringer that fired from his pocket when he threw his jacket on a chair. The bullet hit him below the chest and the bullet travel 12" in his body.
    The ER peeled him open like a banana to stop the internal bleeding. The bullet is still in him.
    Its an experience to respect what a small caliber can do and cause so much pain.

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    One of our very own, expvideo, has recounted how he died and was revived from being shot by a small caliber pistol (.25acp, I believe, but I'm not 100% sure).

    The fact that there are statistics for death from .22LR rounds speaks to shot placement over caliber. Now, I will take the largest caliber I can handle well when it comes to self defense, but with enough practice, whatever you choose will be effective.
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    I believe it is true that .22LR has killed more people on the face of this planet than any other round out there........is it the #1 defense round out there? Surely not.......but it is the cheapest, and easiest to practice with.......and sometimes that's all you got. Beats a rock or pointed stick any day of the week..........

    Now with that, I need to find a .22 pistol............:P

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    I have a MkII bull barrel Ruger that is a tack driver. It is a good deal more accurate than my skills. Not much of a carry gun, tho.
    I have a Berretta Bobcat .22 that is as convenient as it gets. Easy to hide in a front pants pocket.
    As has been said, the .22 doesn't strike fear in most, but it is deadly.

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    Hammer wrote:
    I have a MkII bull barrel Ruger that is a tack driver. It is a good deal more accurate than my skills. Not much of a carry gun, tho.
    I have a Berretta Bobcat .22 that is as convenient as it gets. Easy to hide in a front pants pocket.
    As has been said, the .22 doesn't strike fear in most, but it is deadly.
    I look at one of those Bobcatsevery time I go into Welcher's........have you had any cycling problems? Notably, stovepipes or failure to feed off the mag? I had one of the little T-22s for about a week that would jam about every other shot....gave itto someone.

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    I have personally taken two .22 rounds in my upper right thigh. Long story short I was in the woods and they fell out of the sky. One headed straight for the thigh bone and stopped. the other was about 1.5 inches lower and slipped between the artery and the bone. The doc said if it had nicked the artery I would have never made it out of the woods.
    We all think of initial stopping power like the .45 but for all intended purposes that little .22 can kill just on the internal damage.

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    Mafia assassins have used 22LR your years. I would suspect numerous spy agencies do too.

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    Noseguns!

    It's far better than nothing (as the 80yo grandmother from a few days ago will attest).

    Any caliber can be lethal. Just like realtors say: Location, location, location!

    I would suspect numerous spy agencies do too.
    Have you heard the story of (ummm) the OSS head demonstrating their silenced .22 to Roosevelt in the Oval Office?

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    So what is the smallest caliber gun? Commercially made.

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    Triple Tap wrote:
    So what is the smallest caliber gun? Commercially made.
    17 HMR

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    I like my 1957 4 screw SW K22. Pretty heavybut an extremelynice shooter.



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    BlaineG wrote:
    Hammer wrote:
    I have a MkII bull barrel Ruger that is a tack driver. It is a good deal more accurate than my skills. Not much of a carry gun, tho.
    I have a Berretta Bobcat .22 that is as convenient as it gets. Easy to hide in a front pants pocket.
    As has been said, the .22 doesn't strike fear in most, but it is deadly.
    I look at one of those Bobcatsevery time I go into Welcher's........have you had any cycling problems? Notably, stovepipes or failure to feed off the mag? I had one of the little T-22s for about a week that would jam about every other shot....gave itto someone.
    That little gun has been very good about cycling all the time. Eats differing kinds of ammo, seems not to be finicky.
    This is a model 21A
    Is the model 22 a .25 ACP? If so, that would not be my choice....

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    The .22 is still better than nothing, but for the same size I carry a .380 in my pocket with Galser POW'RBall's.



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    Cremator75 wrote:
    The .22 is still better than nothing, but for the same size I carry a .380 in my pocket with Galser POW'RBall's.

    I've heard those will stomp a mud hole in your chest

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    I had a Beretta .22.........nothing but problems.....sold it at a loss towards my KelTec PF9.....

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    Triple Tap wrote:
    So what is the smallest caliber gun? Commercially made.
    17 HMR
    although it shoots a .17cal bullet the case is still a .22 mag.

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    M1Gunr wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
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    So what is the smallest caliber gun? Commercially made.
    17 HMR
    although it shoots a .17cal bullet the case is still a .22 mag.
    Caliber is bullet diameter. The case is irrelevant for caliber. All the original Magnums used the 375HH case but there were a bunch of different calibers.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    SNIPAll the original Magnums used the 375HH case but there were a bunch of different calibers.
    He goes back further than we thought, folks.

    I'm betting thatpart about going to high school in the early '60s was a diversion.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Citizen wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    SNIPAll the original Magnums used the 375HH case but there were a bunch of different calibers.
    He goes back further than we thought, folks.

    I'm betting thatpart about going to high school in the early '60s was a diversion.
    First there was the rock
    Then there was the sharpened rock. We dripped water on the rock to chip it.
    Then there was the stick tied to the rock.
    Then there were some simple, soft metals. They could be forged into instruments of destruction.
    Ahh, the Bronze age. I remember it well. I oogled the mail-order catalogs for a beautiful polished Henry rifle.
    But the revolver became king.....
    So much for reminiscing....

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    Hammer wrote:
    Citizen wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    SNIPAll the original Magnums used the 375HH case but there were a bunch of different calibers.
    He goes back further than we thought, folks.

    I'm betting thatpart about going to high school in the early '60s was a diversion.
    First there was the rock
    Then there was the sharpened rock. We dripped water on the rock to chip it.
    Then there was the stick tied to the rock.
    Then there were some simple, soft metals. They could be forged into instruments of destruction.
    Ahh, the Bronze age. I remember it well. I oogled the mail-order catalogs for a beautiful polished Henry rifle.
    But the revolver became king.....
    So much for reminiscing....
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