Thundar wrote:
The Donkey wrote:
There are plenty of members of the Republican Partythatact in ignorance of legal rights to OC, while members of the Democratic Party, like Mark Warner, are friendly to OC law.
Curious to see how the non-partisan secret service and state police reacted.
Well Donkey, you are right, there are some in the D party that support gun rights, but Obama ain't one of 'em. He is a colossal gun grabber.
That is whyI worethe Guns Save Lives orange button. I don't think I could have been a threat as I was on the sidewalk off of school grounds.
I think the security people were more nervous about the people with the Abortion Kills posters.:?
I am glad that you all were not molested during your OC "happening."
This is part of what I got on John McCain from the "On The Issues" website. The quotes are selectively stolen mostly verbatim:
:arrow:A recall petition drive was started in June 2001 by the Arizona right. The petition complained . . . about (McCain's) proposal to close the gun show loophole. One form of the petition accused him of backing "dishonest and treasonist" legislation. Several of the petitions were posted at gun shops.
:arrow:The NRA was particularly angry with him for its being included in his campaign finance reform bill, and for trying to tighten a loophole in the gun control laws. McCain himself was sufficiently concerned that he sent a 4-page, single-spaced letter to every GOP precinct leader in Arizona. He called for "greater tolerance" for Republicans "who occasionally dissent" from one or another majority position held by a party.
Source: Citizen McCain, by Elizabeth Drew, p. 78-79 May 7, 2002
[align=left]:arrow:McCain favors outlawing cheaply made handguns called Saturday night specials, and favors mandating safety locks on certain guns. He said he is intrigued by new technology that electronically identifies a person handling a gun, allowing only the owner to fire it. McCain rallied Senate Republicans behind a Democratic measure requiring background checks at gun shows.
Source: Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press Aug 17, 1999
S.1805/H.R.1036 ; vote number
2004-30 on Mar 2, 2004)and another bill that would prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition, and set a minimum prison term of 15 years for violations. Also it would require all licensed importers, manufacturers and dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or safety devices. (
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005.)
:arrow:McCain voted yes on The Hatch amdt would increase mandatory penalties for the illegal transfer or use of firearms and requires background check on purchasers at gun shows. [A YES vote supports stricter penalties]. Status: Amdt Agreed to Y)48; N)47; NV)5
Reference: Hatch Amendment #344; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-118 on May 14, 1999
:arrow:McCain co-sponsored a bill banning gun registration & trigger lock law in Washington DC, BUT the billmaintains the current ban on the possession and control of a sawed-off shotgun, machine gun, or short-barreled rifle.
Source: D.C. Personal Protection Act (H.R.1399/S.1001) 2007-S1001 on Mar 27, 2007
I am going to vote for Obama for reasons that have nothing to do with his positions on firearms. But if I was going to vote solely on the basis of consistent pro-gun stances, neither one of the major party candidates would get my vote.
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