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genesse county parks

Tucker6900

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LaVere wrote:
I have worked with the Genesee County parks for the last year. And got them to recognized the preemption law. They rewrote their rules and regs this year to express that change. The Ranger or cop only has to read the book.

http://tinyurl.com/5q5lr2 Park rules


Section XXV – Firearms
For purposes of these rules, the term “firearm” shall
include any revolver, pistol, shotgun, rifle, air rifle, air
gun, water gun, slingshot, BB gun or any gun, rifle,
firearm or bow or other device which is designed to
discharge projectiles or are models or facsimiles of
these devices, which appear to be capable of doing so.
No person shall possess or control any firearm (except
those as permitted by MCL 28.421 et seq) upon
properties administered by or under the jurisdiction of
the Commission
, except by prior written permission of
the Commission or as allowed by the Commission
from time to time in designated areas.
No person shall discharge any firearm upon property
administered by or under the jurisdiction of the
Commission except by prior written permission of the
Commission or as allowed by the Commission from
time to time in designated areas.
This section shall not apply to any law enforcement
officer acting in the course of his/her official duties.



The red that means us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Awesome! Thanks for the clarification. I read the same rule, but didnt have time to look up the michigan law that it reflected.
 

MrsRuger45

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ruger45 wrote:
my wife is faxing it to their office i only asked for help cause i am new to email stuff and did not know how to do all that stuff but my wife kindly helped me out thank you tucker for your help

no problem! "secretary MrsRuger45" here to help!!

Maybe one day I'll teach ruger45 how to e-mail & such, but then we fight over the laptop & someone has to be confined to the other room with the desktop computer. I guess we'll just have to buy a 2nd laptop, eh? :shock:
 

ruger45

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thanks every one for the help i talked to art feild he assured me it is liggel and fine to o.c and if i have any problems have the leo call th cheif
 

Venator

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LaVere wrote:
I have worked with the Genesee County parks for the last year. And got them to recognized the preemption law. They rewrote their rules and regs this year to express that change. The Ranger or cop only has to read the book.


Web site
http://tinyurl.com/5q5lr2



Park rules

Section XXV – Firearms
For purposes of these rules, the term “firearm” shall
include any revolver, pistol, shotgun, rifle, air rifle, air
gun, water gun, slingshot, BB gun or any gun, rifle,
firearm or bow or other device which is designed to
discharge projectiles or are models or facsimiles of
these devices, which appear to be capable of doing so.
No person shall possess or control any firearm (except
those as permitted by MCL 28.421 et seq) upon
properties administered by or under the jurisdiction of
the Commission
, except by prior written permission of
the Commission or as allowed by the Commission
from time to time in designated areas.
No person shall discharge any firearm upon property
administered by or under the jurisdiction of the
Commission except by prior written permission of the
Commission or as allowed by the Commission from
time to time in designated areas.
This section shall not apply to any law enforcement
officer acting in the course of his/her official duties.



The red that means us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I just talked with Officer Mike Fioucci at the Park ranger station.
21 Aug 2008 1:30 PM ( Today)

He assured me that CPL/CCW and open carry are perfectly legal in all Genesee parks. As expressed in the parks rules and regs.

I asked that he or the chief refresh their officers about CPL/CCW is legal in all of the parks.

One may be stopped if they get a citizen's report of gun carry. Or checked about hunting. ie no hunting permitted .

If you have any other questions PM me.

Gordon






The red part, does that include a person that does not have a CPL? If it doesn't then it is still illegal. The preemption covers anybody that can lawfully own a handgun and is carrying said gun in a lawful manner or for a lawful purpose. A hollow victory if one at all. Get them to take out all firearm bans. Illegalfirearm possession is already covered by state law.

28.421 Definitions.



Sec. 1.

As used in this act:

(a) “Felony” means that term as defined in section 1 of chapter I of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 761.1, or a violation of a law of the United States or another state that is designated as a felony or that is punishable by death or by imprisonment for more than 1 year.

(b) “Firearm” means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.

(c) “Misdemeanor” means a violation of a penal law of this state or violation of a local ordinance substantially corresponding to a violation of a penal law of this state that is not a felony or a violation of an order, rule, or regulation of a state agency that is punishable by imprisonment or a fine that is not a civil fine, or both.

(d) “Peace officer” means, except as otherwise provided in this act, an individual who is employed as a law enforcement officer, as that term is defined under section 2 of the commission on law enforcement standards act, 1965 PA 203, MCL 28.602, by this state or another state, a political subdivision of this state or another state, or the United States, and who is required to carry a firearm in the course of his or her duties as a law enforcement officer.

(e) “Pistol” means a loaded or unloaded firearm that is 30 inches or less in length, or a loaded or unloaded firearm that by its construction and appearance conceals it as a firearm.

(f) “Purchaser” means a person who receives a pistol from another person by purchase or gift.

(g) “Reserve peace officer”, “auxiliary officer”, or “reserve officer” means, except as otherwise provided in this act, an individual authorized on a voluntary or irregular basis by a duly authorized police agency of this state or a political subdivision of this state to act as a law enforcement officer, who is responsible for the preservation of the peace, the prevention and detection of crime, and the enforcement of the general criminal laws of this state, and who is otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under this act.

(h) “Retired police officer” or “retired law enforcement officer” means an individual who was a certified police officer or certified law enforcement officer as those terms are defined under section 2(k) of the commission on the law enforcement standards act, 1965 PA 203, MCL 28.602, and retired in good standing from his or her employment as a police officer or law enforcement officer.

(i) “Seller” means a person who sells or gives a pistol to another person.
 

Tucker6900

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ruger45 wrote:
leo art field said we would be fine no matter what and they in the process of putting it in the rules but it takes time.
Try telling him that it would be easier to just remove it from the rules, instead of having it added. Although for people who dont know, having it in the rules that firearms are permitted would be nice.
 
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