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XD-45 Service Black 4" FS

Chris.Greyskull

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I'd like to get a CZ. Found one for 440. I'm broke.

I will sell you my nearly new XD-45 black 4" service model with 3 magazines, cleaning kit and polished barrel for $400 even. I live in Tacoma. My email addy is chris.greyskull@gmail.com.

If you're interested I can email some pics but I made a post on here not too long ago about trading and posted pics already so just search this forum for xd 45 trade cz or something like that.

Help a brother out.
 

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Forgot to mention that I've only put about 300 or so rounds through it. Mostly Blazer brass and speer gold dot.
 

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Have you talked to Mary over at Mary's Pistols? I doubt she'll trade you straight across, but she might make you a good deal in trade for one of their CZs.
 

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Went in today actually. They've got an older 75 with the spur hammer. Comes with 2 mags and is only $350. The most credit anyone is willing to give me for the XD is $325 or so. Might do it anyway. Money is just money.
 

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Chris.Greyskull wrote:
I did it. Traded at Mary's.

Stoked on the CZ.

It was good seeing you there! I'm sorry we didn't have more time to talk, it was a hectic afternoon for me. I really like the CZs, and I'd have one if I didn't have so many other pokers in the fire right now. I think you did really well!

But.....thanks to Dan, my AR is almost complete; I hope to be shooting it soon.
 

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Yeah, Mary and Dan are so far the nicest Gun people I've met so far. I definitely plan on doing more business with them.

What parts did you make your AR build out of?

Lower?
Upper?

I'm trying to decide on a entry level AR to get sometime next month. Thinking about a stag.
 

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Wade's has Stag Arms Upper/Bushmaster Lower, base CAR-15's (like an M4, they call it an M4, but that's a military designation) for $799+tax. (So, if taxes are still 9%, $870.91, as long as they don't charge a transfer fee)
 

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Yes, yes, and I don't know. *chuckle*

I took a friend there to help him out an try to prevent him getting swindled (which I did, since they tried to sell him an EOTech red dot and he got one for his purposes for $40 instead of the $400 they were charging). But, he also picked up an aluminum handguard rail system and rear rail iron sight which put him a little over $1300 (the sight was only $40, but I couldn't sway him from the rail system, even though I told him he could get as good a system online for less).
 

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There's this Stag used for $699. It looks like what i'm interested though a detachable carry handle would be nice.

http://www.beararms.com/product.asp...&M=0&K=&D=&Num=21&Q=20&O=2&UsedType=&NewType=

The only thing I'm concerned with is being able to use the military 5.56 stuff. It seems alot of people advertise as both .223 and 5.56 but in reality it's a normal .223 chamber.

I've also settled with the fact that it's going to be a trial and error thing since I'm completely new to guns.
 

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Chris.Greyskull wrote:
Yeah, Mary and Dan are so far the nicest Gun people I've met so far. I definitely plan on doing more business with them.

What parts did you make your AR build out of?

Lower?
Upper?

I'm trying to decide on a entry level AR to get sometime next month. Thinking about a stag.

I got my lower from Dan, it’s a Rock River, to which I added the RR two stage trigger kit. I ordered this complete upper from AIM Surplus because it had pretty much everything I wanted. I’m not a fan of the carbine length hand guard with the 16” barrel, it looks wrong and the bayonet doesn’t mount. I wanted a 16” barrel with the mid-length hand guard.

cmmgu1605.jpg
 

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Mainsail wrote
got my lower from Dan, it’s a Rock River, to which I added the RR two stage trigger kit. I ordered this complete upper from AIM Surplus because it had pretty much everything I wanted. I’m not a fan of the carbine length hand guard with the 16” barrel, it looks wrong and the bayonet doesn’t mount. I wanted a 16” barrel with the mid-length hand guard.

cmmgu1605.jpg
That is a pretty good deal. They sell them for $625 on their site. You can get the same RRA upper with carrier handle and flip up rear sight for $620 though which is about $100 worth of stuff.

When I built mine I went with Essential Arms lower and an RRA complete kit. Two stage trigger, six position stock, flat top upper, detachable carry handle. Made a nice rifle.
 

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Chris.Greyskull wrote
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The only thing I'm concerned with is being able to use the military 5.56 stuff. It seems alot of people advertise as both .223 and 5.56 but in reality it's a normal .223 chamber.
I just read in a gun magazine I got that if you get the 5.56 you can shoot either but if you get the .223 you can only shoot the .223.
 

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d0od wrote:
Chris.Greyskull wrote
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The only thing I'm concerned with is being able to use the military 5.56 stuff. It seems alot of people advertise as both .223 and 5.56 but in reality it's a normal .223 chamber.
I just read in a gun magazine I got that if you get the 5.56 you can shoot either but if you get the .223 you can only shoot the .223.
That is correct.

With basic NATO rounds it's like this pressure-wise:
5.56NATO > .223Rem
.308Win > 7.62NATO

BUT, when it comes to the 7.62x51NATO round, the biggest issue is when you're using commercial .308Win in violent extraction firearms like the G3 or CETME (which I own) because the brass is thinner on the case and there have been a few accounts of cases being ripped in half, leaving the neck and half the body in the chamber upon extraction. These old military guns may have been designed for lower pressure rounds, but they're also designed for full-auto sustained fire of up to a 30-round magazine... they can handle a few thousand extra psi; which, incidentally, is caused by the slight increase in case volume and charge weight from the thinner case wall. I use .308Win steel-cased Wolf in my CETME without issue, since there's very little chance of a case rupture or extractor bending a rim.
 

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just_a_car wrote:
Yes, yes, and I don't know. *chuckle*

I took a friend there to help him out an try to prevent him getting swindled (which I did, since they tried to sell him an EOTech red dot and he got one for his purposes for $40 instead of the $400 they were charging). But, he also picked up an aluminum handguard rail system and rear rail iron sight which put him a little over $1300 (the sight was only $40, but I couldn't sway him from the rail system, even though I told him he could get as good a system online for less).
Agree %110, I even had a small dicussion about Wades and..well..they suck. Worst buisness experience I had ever had. I will never go back, which is also great because I can't stand Bellevue. If you wanna get screwed just go to lowes and get a broom handle for $5.00...... cause it will cost alot more at wades.
 

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just_a_car wrote:
d0od wrote:
Chris.Greyskull wrote
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The only thing I'm concerned with is being able to use the military 5.56 stuff. It seems alot of people advertise as both .223 and 5.56 but in reality it's a normal .223 chamber.
I just read in a gun magazine I got that if you get the 5.56 you can shoot either but if you get the .223 you can only shoot the .223.
That is correct.

With basic NATO rounds it's like this pressure-wise:
5.56NATO > .223Rem
.308Win > 7.62NATO

BUT, when it comes to the 7.62x51NATO round, the biggest issue is when you're using commercial .308Win in violent extraction firearms like the G3 or CETME (which I own) because the brass is thinner on the case and there have been a few accounts of cases being ripped in half, leaving the neck and half the body in the chamber upon extraction. These old military guns may have been designed for lower pressure rounds, but they're also designed for full-auto sustained fire of up to a 30-round magazine... they can handle a few thousand extra psi; which, incidentally, is caused by the slight increase in case volume and charge weight from the thinner case wall. I use .308Win steel-cased Wolf in my CETME without issue, since there's very little chance of a case rupture or extractor bending a rim.
It is not pressure issue, it is a brass size issue.
 
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