Police and their carry

Hey All,

Here's a question that's been floating in my head for the last few weeks. What law gives the police the right to carry firearms? They have to be permitted somehow. Am I wrong to think just because they have a badge they can open carry?

My oldest boy is studying to take his correctional officer exam and be on his way to being a police officer, or po-po , and even he furthered my question by asking how the military is permitted. By law, statute, etc, etc.

Thanks, I try to read here daily, because I live in wonderful Southern California:cuss:

Dale

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It is expected that a police officer be armed while on duty and is actually a requirement to do the job. Do you really need a law to allow the police to carry a gun while on duty?

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Rather than newbies not being permitted to post during some tyrant's probationary period, perhaps CLEO 229 could restrain himself from rising to troll sucker bait.

But no.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA KMA$$

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LEO 229 wrote:

It is expected that a police officer be armed while on duty and is actually a requirement to do the job. Do you really need a law to allow the police to carry a gun while on duty?

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Actually not true. Many constables in small CT towns do not carry firearms. If a situation cannot be resolved without violence, the resident state trooper is called. Why would a firearm be a requirement?

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Rather than newbies not being permitted to post during some tyrant's probationary period, perhaps CLEO 229 could restrain himself from rising to troll sucker bait.

But no.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA KMA$$

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dalebfast wrote:

Hey All,

Here's a question that's been floating in my head for the last few weeks. What law gives the police the right to carry firearms? They have to be permitted somehow. Am I wrong to think just because they have a badge they can open carry?

My oldest boy is studying to take his correctional officer exam and be on his way to being a police officer, or po-po , and even he furthered my question by asking how the military is permitted. By law, statute, etc, etc.

Thanks, I try to read here daily, because I live in wonderful Southern California:cuss:

Dale

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Laws are not written expressly to allow activity. They forbid or restrict activity but may have exclusions attached to permit in certain situations.

In Virginia.... you cannot CC in an alcohol establishment... except... law enforcement, or owners and employees of the business.

Virginia is an OCstate so there is no law necessary to allow the police to do so.

Maybe someone from another state can give ussomething from their state.

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Now move along now Doug.. nothing to see here... : Tap : Tap : Tap :

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"What I would also like you know is, how can one LEO confirm that another is a LEO, say if that LEO is from out of state."

In MY case....an ID card similar to DL or carry license carried on my person.

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Others are right in that it varies by state and I think there are even some relevant federal laws like the LEOSA.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Officers_Safety_Act)

Originally I believe most police in the USA weren't armed because they worried people might see them as astanding army. Ibelieve in some countries the regular patrolmen are not armed even today.

Is it a good idea for them to be armed? I think so. If we have to havepolice they should be armed. And so should non-police.

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Yep...most laws in VA regarding firearms have specific exemptions for law enforcement and active military in the line of duty. Whether this is right or wrong (having laws that allow police to have superior firepower over the 'civvies") isanother story, and opinions will vary depending on who you ask.

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nova wrote:

Yep...most laws in VA regarding firearms have specific exemptions for law enforcement and active military in the line of duty. Whether this is right or wrong (having laws that allow police to have superior firepower over the 'civvies") isanother story, and opinions will vary depending on who you ask.

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I have no greater access to "superior" firepower than a citizen. As a citizen I actually have access to far more weapons than I do on duty.

There is pretty much nothing I can get on duty that I cannot get as a civilian. So there is no real access to superior firepower.

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There are certain code sections wherethepolice are exempt... not many....

Maybe we can compile a list so we can see what is out there.

In Virginia....

Alcohol establishment.

J3: nothing herein shall prohibit any sworn law-enforcement officer from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of such restaurant or club or any owner or event sponsor or his employees from carrying a concealed handgun while on duty at such restaurant or club if such person has a concealed handgun permit.



At School

(iv) any law-enforcement officer



Brandishing

I am not exempt from being charged with brandishing!! So if I point my gun at you... you can apparently have me arrested!

I am exempt from being sued civilly....

B. Any police officer in the performance of his duty, in making an arrest under the provisions of this section, shall not be civilly liable in damages for injuries or death resulting to the person being arrested if he had reason to believe that the person being arrested was pointing, holding, or brandishing such firearm or air or gas operated weapon, or object that was similar in appearance, with intent to induce fear in the mind of another.


So what else is there????

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By "superior firepower" I had big cities like NYC, Chicago, and WashDC in mind, but it can be applied to other whole states like CA, NY, MA, etc. in terms of restrictive gun laws.

Yeah pretty much the only ones I could think of were places that serve alcohol and schools...I guess that isn't 'most' laws now that you point that out...

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dalebfast wrote:

Hey All,

Here's a question that's been floating in my head for the last few weeks. What law gives the police the right to carry firearms? They have to be permitted somehow. Am I wrong to think just because they have a badge they can open carry?

My oldest boy is studying to take his correctional officer exam and be on his way to being a police officer, or po-po , and even he furthered my question by asking how the military is permitted. By law, statute, etc, etc.

Thanks, I try to read here daily, because I live in wonderful Southern California:cuss:

Dale

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It is expected that a police officer be armed while on duty and is actually a requirement to do the job. Do you really need a law to allow the police to carry a gun while on duty?

What you are looking for may not be a law in some statesbut a state standard with criteria required before they can carry.

Laws are not written expressly to allow activity. They forbid or restrict activity but may have exclusions attached to permit in certain situations.

In Virginia.... you cannot CC in an alcohol establishment... except... law enforcement, or owners and employees of the business.

Virginia is an OCstate so there is no law necessary to allow the police to do so.

Maybe someone from another state can give ussomething from their state.

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Leo! You made bail! Welcome back! I'm sure those morals charges won't stick.:lol:

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