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    I see a lot of folks on the internet talk about their CCW Badges etc. I am 50% on the fence about the badge thing. It's not required by law in TN and I see how it could cause trouble. 1/2 of me says that in this day in age, the badge keeps prying and tattle tale eyes from calling the cops on you in the grocery store. The other part of me says, " your not a cop, so stop wearing the badge"! What are your thoughts and stories? Thanks, K.

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    Welcome to the forum.

    I think a badge is stupid. I would never wear one. In fact, I think it's bad taste to wear one if your intent is to make others think you are a cop, which is probably the only reason they would hassle you less.

    Besides, the message we should be sending is that regular citizens can carry guns, not just people with badges.

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    That's pretty much the way I feel, but it is interesting to read other views too... Thanks for the thought. I can't imagine the hassle one would get for the intent to impersonate a LEO..... I sort of find it hard to believe the badge is legal in all honesty. I mean, with all of the lawyers of today...

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    I vote a badge is a BAD idea, and bad taste. I will not own one. Noone but you, and other badge owners are likely to see anything positive out of it. If you wish to prove you are "authorized" by the State to carry a weapon, you can show/flash your CCDW license, or you could give the person a business card showing the particular statute that authorizes it, such as the State Constitution.

    You wil also find some flyers being distributed on these forums that can be distributed to those with concerns or questions. Check the Kentucky forum for a recent post on such a flyer.

    Be certain that none of this implies that you are with law enforcement. Not only is it illegal most likely, it also does a disservice to the OC movement.

    My two cents...


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    I'm thinking the badge wearers might beafter some special attention or "wow" factor when they show others the badge.

    A badgemakes little sense to me. Being alive means I'm endowed with the unalienable right to self-defense. So, having a breathing body is all the badge I need, or would expect anyone else to need.

    "Yeah. OK. Here I am. What moreexplanation do you need?"

    "Especially in this day and age with some forty states having shall-issue CCW laws?"

    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    I’m driving a 2000 Police Interceptor that still looks very much like a police car. When I’m driving it I have to be very careful not to do anything that actively makes it look like I’m trying to impersonate the police. I cannot stop and help someone on the side of the road. If I’m driving behind someone I cannot flash my lights to pass. In fact, if I’m driving behind someone and my lights are off I don’t turn them on, or on I don’t turn them off.

    You have to be VERY careful if you’re silly enough to wear a badge, especially with a gun openly carried on your belt. You need to weigh every word you say to anyone with consideration to whether they might think you’re a police officer. Is someone letting you go ahead of them in the check-out line at the market because they’re being nice or because they think you’re a cop? If you tell the cashier at the 7-11 you think he’s overcharged you for a hotdog, does he agree because you were right or because he thinks you’re a cop? If anyone who was fooled by your badge sees you get into a car that’s not a police car and calls the cops, you can be arrested. The cops don’t mess around when it comes to police impersonation, and neither will a judge.

    The badge has no authority and serves absolutely no lawful purpose.

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    no badge here in georgia, i think it's silly

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    CCW badges? I've never heard of them. If I'm carrying concealed I'm not going to advertise it. Also I'm a citizen of the great state of Kentucky (God bless it) and as such there is no requirement that we carry badges. And as the line in Blazing Saddles goes "Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!"

    *Edit* For clearification

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    I b'lieve that line was from 'Treasure of the Sierra Madre' but no matter...

    Badges are a really dumb idea. All the more likely to get you busted for impersonating a LEO. Badges convey some sort of authority by general use... and you have none. Don't assume you do.Posers of any type are bad pizza.

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    I b'lieve that line was from 'Treasure of the Sierra Madre' but no matter...

    You guys are both right...it was in both movies...

    Badges are a really dumb idea. All the more likely to get you busted for impersonating a LEO. Badges convey some sort of authority by general use... and you have none. Don't assume you do.Posers of any type are bad pizza.
    I agree with everyone else....if you're not a cop, security officer etc...no badge

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    Does anyone even know of a state that issues cc or oc badges?

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    No state issues CCDW badges, only licenses. Badges are available for sale on the private market, because they are not illegal, and there are customers that will buy them. If you buy one, don't use it.

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    Posers of any type are bad pizza.
    I love that Rebel, can I use it?

    I've seen ads for CC badges in magazines and I think the whole idea is weird, a recipe for disaster.


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    Yeah, I liked that line too... Pretty funny. I think the badge is a novelty item, though I seem to be reading a lot of people using them! I have been a gun owner all of my adult life and am a lifetime NRA member... and I still can't believe that open carry is news to me. I am pretty witty and perceptive, and how this one's been getting by all my gun life baffles me. I still don't think I could Wyatt Erp around town with it out though... I love the element of suprise and conceal... So, riddle me this, do you have to own a CCW permit to open carry in TN? There is no age limit for open carry, but you can't own a pistol in TN unless you are of 18 years or older correct?

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    Welcome to the forum.



    It is always good to have new members. Stick around and post and read and you will learn.



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    PS As for what I think about CCW Badges.....

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    When I looked into this some years ago, what seemed to be the case was that in places where it wasn't clearly (or dangerously close to) impersonating an LEO, the actual LEOs who saw it would be very very displeased. So IMHO, an official Bad Idea.

    FWIW, I once carried an actual, no-kidding Federal badge ... from the Office of Personnel Management, which conferred absolutely NO powers whatsoever on me (it was just to prove that I was on gummint bidness rather than collecting information for a spam list). Trust me, the novelty of it wears off very quickly.

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    Wearing any kind of badge while open carrying in a civilian capacity is the dumbest thing anyone could do, as one could get nailed with impersonating an officer.

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    I would never wear a badge. For me, part of the point in OCing is letting others know that they too have rights as citizens. A badge would say the opposite. I've actually been thinking of making a shirt though. Something along the lines of "I'm not a cop. I'm a citizen". But then my wife wouldn't go anywhere with me, and I'd sit at home with my shirt on. Maybe that's a bad idea too.

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    Re shirt; dark blue with yellow block letters "POLITE" front and back.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Re shirt; dark blue with yellow block letters "POLITE" front and back.
    That's good!

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Re shirt; dark blue with yellow block letters "POLITE" front and back.
    That's funny in so many ways. It would leave the gun haters scratching their heads.

    Doug I enjoy your cerebral humor.

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    I agree with the rest (no badge) it's not only a dumb idea, it is just asking for trouble. Some unknowing citizen sees you with a badge they may flag you down for assistance as all LEO's are required to provide to them, you know to protect and serve so to speak. And in doing so could be implied as impersonating a LEO.

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    peanut wrote:
    I see a lot of folks on the internet talk about their CCW Badges etc. I am 50% on the fence about the badge thing. It's not required by law in TN and I see how it could cause trouble. 1/2 of me says that in this day in age, the badge keeps prying and tattle tale eyes from calling the cops on you in the grocery store. The other part of me says, " your not a cop, so stop wearing the badge"! What are your thoughts and stories? Thanks, K.

    By the way, great site!
    what forums are you frequenting? Of the 3-4 forums I frequent, the prevailing attitude is negative towards CC (or OC) badges. 1-it screams cop-wannabe; 2-in some states, it is illegal to own; 3-if you CC, why have a badge; 4-if you OC, do you WANT to be mistaken as a LEO? (see #1); 5-people laugh at people with badges if they are not LEOs or Fire/EMS (i.e. TSA "agents", mall security, crossing guards, Geek Squad).



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    I started seein' all sorts of fancy badges show up in various catalogs years ago... before the internet... or even PC's. Poser pogybait. Badge cases too 'n wanna-be ID's with fancy soundin' 'titles' too. I reckon people bought 'em... or they wouldn't make 'em.I s'pose the lounge lizards scarfed 'em up tho. Everybody who's got that 'Secret Sam' thing goin' on.Like CIA and SEAL posers... (whom I've encountered here 'n there...)

    Word Up! Don't buy, carryor wear any of that junk.

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    OK....I'll weigh in. I'm a sworn deputy in Ky. Nooblet has met me. I carry open and do NOT show a badge. A CC badge to me is a waste of money and very vain.:what:

    Though I'm exempt from most places that ban guns, I follow the rules and contact any owner that bans guns. So.....My $.02 worth.......NO badges.

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