RayBurton72
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I am simply dumbfounded by your continued inability to either understand the law, or accept that you simply are not as knowledgeable as you would like to be.
It is kind of like what Reagan said about liberals - it's not that they don't know anything, it is that so much of what they know simply ain't so.
It is not incorrect analysis to say that carrying a concealed weapon where it is posted as "No Weapons" is a misdemeanor - it is a fact, as I explained.
If you cannot accept that the opening section of an article of law, which explains the penalties for violating any of the following sections applies to the following sections, then I cannot help you.
For everyone else who has been misled by your previous postings, let me further refute them: The reason the law (NC GS 14-415.11) says "not authorized," is because the carrying of a concealed weapon is illegal (NCGS 14-269] with a few exceptions. One of them being that persons who obtain an NC Concealed carry permit are "authorized" to carry a concealed firearm under certain conditions. Hence, the "not authorized" language.
For a plain language version, one can simply peruse the North Carolina Firearms Laws pamphlet available from the NC Attorney General's Office (Rev'd December 2007)
As for open carry where posted "No weapons"
If you were to go into a mall that is posted "No weapons" and police are called, it is possible (likelihood changes based on where the mall is) to be charged with disturbing the peace by failing to abide by the mall's rules in a manner that disturbs the peace.
If you don't think this can happen, ask the teeny boppers and gang-wannabees who have been charged for using profanity, blaring music or simply "harrasing" other patrons.
PLEASE NOTE: The disturbing the peace charge does not stem from the activity itself, it stems from doing the activity in violation of posted bans on such activity.
At a minimum, since we usually agree that most LEO's don't understand the intricacies of firearms laws, you are VERY likely to be arrested. Rightly or wrongly, it could be a very bad day for you.
I am simply dumbfounded by your continued inability to either understand the law, or accept that you simply are not as knowledgeable as you would like to be.
It is kind of like what Reagan said about liberals - it's not that they don't know anything, it is that so much of what they know simply ain't so.
It is not incorrect analysis to say that carrying a concealed weapon where it is posted as "No Weapons" is a misdemeanor - it is a fact, as I explained.
If you cannot accept that the opening section of an article of law, which explains the penalties for violating any of the following sections applies to the following sections, then I cannot help you.
For everyone else who has been misled by your previous postings, let me further refute them: The reason the law (NC GS 14-415.11) says "not authorized," is because the carrying of a concealed weapon is illegal (NCGS 14-269] with a few exceptions. One of them being that persons who obtain an NC Concealed carry permit are "authorized" to carry a concealed firearm under certain conditions. Hence, the "not authorized" language.
For a plain language version, one can simply peruse the North Carolina Firearms Laws pamphlet available from the NC Attorney General's Office (Rev'd December 2007)
Any individual who violates any other standards for
the carrying of a concealed handgun with a permit is guilty of a Class 2 Misdemeanor. (North Carolina Firearms Laws pg 16)
Although a person may have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, permittees are not authorized to carry the permitted weapon anywhere they desire. The weapon may not be carried in the following areas: . . .
7. any premises, except state owned rest areas or stops along the highways, where notice that carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited by the posting of a conspicuous notice, or statement by the person in legal possession or control of the premises. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.11(c)North Carolina Firearms Laws pp 16-17
As for open carry where posted "No weapons"
If you were to go into a mall that is posted "No weapons" and police are called, it is possible (likelihood changes based on where the mall is) to be charged with disturbing the peace by failing to abide by the mall's rules in a manner that disturbs the peace.
If you don't think this can happen, ask the teeny boppers and gang-wannabees who have been charged for using profanity, blaring music or simply "harrasing" other patrons.
PLEASE NOTE: The disturbing the peace charge does not stem from the activity itself, it stems from doing the activity in violation of posted bans on such activity.
At a minimum, since we usually agree that most LEO's don't understand the intricacies of firearms laws, you are VERY likely to be arrested. Rightly or wrongly, it could be a very bad day for you.