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    I was walking down meridian, open carrying my G19 in a Serpa CQC holster, I was stopped by approx. 4 police vehicles and 6-7 officers, and ordered to put my hands up, I complied. The officer had a hard time pulling it out of the holster, because he didn't know about the CQCs retention feature. my CPL was demanded, which I handed over. I was lectured on 'responsible gun ownership', was told I can't carry in banks, or walk past schools, and they even called 7-11 I had just left and asked the guy behind the counter if he remembers me in the store, and mentioned my clothing, and adding 'big ears'.... nice..

    The incident is way more detailed than that, just some points. There was about 15 or so people that came out of the local stores to watch, all maybe 20-50' away. I SPECIFICALLY asked if I was being detained, and the response was 'Well, of course, you didn't think we're here to have a party, do ya?'


    After I was released, I went back to the tint shop, where my car was getting done, I was followed.

    I was also threatened that if they ever saw me open carrying again they'd arrest me, and even if I wasn't arrested, they'd hold my gun in 'protective custody'... They also told me they'd impound my car if my door sticker didn't match my VIN.

    Keep in mind that I was WALKING when they stopped me, and followed me AFTER I was released, to the shop where my car was getting tinted....


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    Dude call Randy Loune (sp?) Immediately that's ****** up. Sounds like a nice letter with copies of the local TBs are in order at a minimum from the rest of us though. I can't believe that happened. Keep us posted!

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    Sorry, but there's only one word to describe this: un-*******-believable.......apparently Puyallup is one rich town.

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    What the officer did was totally uncalled for. You were in the right, perfectly legal. What "Fernando" did was illegal. I'm not a law expert nor do I post much here, but I do believe you are owed at least an apology. Did you get his badge # or anything like that so you could file a complaint?

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    TechnoWeenie wrote:
    I was walking down meridian, open carrying my G19 in a Serpa CQC holster, I was stopped by approx. 4 police vehicles and 6-7 officers, and ordered to put my hands up, I complied, and I asked the officer if he knew OC was legal, he replied 'I know open carry is leg -- no it's not, you're committing a crime'. The officer had a hard time pulling it out of the holster, because he didn't know about the CQCs retention feature. my CPL was demanded, which I handed over. I was lectured on 'responsible gun ownership', was told I can't carry in banks, or walk past schools, and they even called 7-11 I had just left and asked the guy behind the counter if he remembers me in the store, and mentioned my clothing, and adding 'big ears'.... nice..

    HIS name was Fernando, a transit officer. The others appeared to be county sherriff's. While the other officers were ill informed, they acted professionally, albeit in error. Fernando, on the other hand, was telling me how lucky I was because he would've arrested me (if the other officer hadn't decided to let me go with a warning).


    The incident is way more detailed than that, just some points. There was about 15 or so people that came out of the local stores to watch, all maybe 20-50' away. I SPECIFICALLY asked if I was being detained, and the response was 'Well, of course, you didn't think we're here to have a party, do ya?'


    After I was released, I went back to the tint shop, where my car was getting done, I was followed, and they asked the owner of the shop if they could come in, where they looked in my vehicle, they asked my consent to look in the vehicle and I did not respond, yet they looked through the interior anyway..

    So far. unlawful search and unlawful detention. I was also threatened that if they ever saw me doing it again they'd arrest me, and even if I wasn't arrested, they'd hold my gun in 'protective custody'... They also told me they'd impound my car if my door sticker didn't match my VIN.

    Keep in mind that I was WALKING when they stopped me, and followed me AFTER I was released, to the shop where my car was getting tinted....

    MAN THIS IS BULL DOO DOO.AND WRONG IN EVERY WAY!!!!!!

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    So, everyone up for next lunch in Puyallup again, this time on the front steps of the Puyallup PD?

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    compmanio365 wrote:
    So, everyone up for next lunch in Puyallup again, this time on the front steps of the Puyallup PD?
    you just read my mind, we can have it tomorrow for all I care

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    What is bad is they just had lunch in puyallup due to Jarhead's encounter. It is bad I keep hearing all of the bad OC outings but I have yet had any problems.

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    My errands will put me in Puyallup tomorrow. We'll see how it goes.

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    I would pull your post until you've talked to Randy Loun.

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    Alwayspacking wrote:
    compmanio365 wrote:
    So, everyone up for next lunch in Puyallup again, this time on the front steps of the Puyallup PD?
    you just read my mind, we can have it tomorrow for all I care
    This weekend we're busy, but we're up for the weekend of the 27/28th.

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    G27 wrote:
    I would pull your post until you've talked to Randy Loun.
    I have not gone into detail on purpose.
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    Holy cow. Check your PM's in regards to the one you sent me!

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    wow I am sorry to hear about your encounter I oc in puyallup today with no problems today. I just got a job on south hill and was a little nervous to oc there now I think I will cc.

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    I think we should plan a lunch in Puyallup. Maybe we can talk Randy into coming out- I'd be happy to buy him lunch.

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    I think we should plan a lunch in Puyallup. Maybe we can talk Randy into coming out- I'd be happy to buy him lunch.
    +1

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    We did the lunch thing already and it seems the cops dont want to take on all of us just find us when we are outnumbered and then they want to mess with us. I for one am all for having a OC meet there again.

    This has to stop its not right its illegal and i will not allow them to put me down again.
    I know how techoweenie feels he needs to call randy and if they do this to one more person then its a class action suit.

    Id request that if we do this meet that we get papers filed in fed court first so they know that we are serious and there nazi tactics will not be allowed to continue. and yes i have no problem going to jail as it will only add to my case against them.

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    wow I am sorry to hear about your encounter I oc in puyallup today with no problems today. I just got a job on south hill and was a little nervous to oc there now I think I will cc.
    I will OC next time I go there, not that I want to have a suit against the PD, but if the LEO sees more than one person OC in their city maybe they will start asking questions and find out it is not wrong.If they know it is illegal, then we can't have a LEO making up his/her own rules like they own the city.

    Don't let them put fear in you. But if you think an encounter with the LEO would effect your job then yeahCC.

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    yes i have no problem going to jail as it will only add to my case against them.
    Respectfully, Sir, if you go with a group please discuss this with them as I'm sure most would prefer not going to jail and getting a record which would preclude any firearms ownership, at least for monthes and monthes while the case preceeds.

    Once, I called PPD when the other half of the duplex I was living in was broken into when the occupants were away for the weekend. The LEO that responded (after 3 hours, I might add) tried to make an issue out of me having a JFrame in my pocket (this was before I had a consealed carry permit)....It got ugly for a moment or two, then he backed off, I suppose because he realized he was blowing smoke. When he was wrapping up the scene, I suggested we go shoot for a Dollar a shot sometimeand he muttered a bad word




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    Another picnic, and wouldn't it be bad if no one brought ice and we all decided, darn, I better walk over to the 7-11 to get some.:what:

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    yes i have no problem going to jail as it will only add to my case against them.
    Respectfully, Sir, if you go with a group please discuss this with them as I'm sure most would prefer not going to jail and getting a record which would preclude any firearms ownership, at least for monthes and monthes while the case preceeds.

    Once, I called PPD when the other half of the duplex I was living in was broken into when the occupants were away for the weekend. The LEO that responded (after 3 hours, I might add) tried to make an issue out of me having a JFrame in my pocket (this was before I had a consealed carry permit)....It got ugly for a moment or two, then he backed off, I suppose because he realized he was blowing smoke. When he was wrapping up the scene, I suggested we go shoot for a Dollar a shot sometimeand he muttered a bad word


    I did have a false arrest on my motorcycle a few years ago, and I applied for a job last weekand they would not hire me because of something on my criminal history. I only had some community service hrs as a youth, but that is all, if this arrest has caused me a job I will sue Tacoma forbig bucks,this job is paying really good money, and the guy wants to hire me but because of something on my record he can't. I will check into it Monday on what it was if it is because of a false arrest then I will take actions. A false arrest may effect you more than you think.

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    First of all If they want to ARREST me for OCing then i am pritty sure there is no court on this planet or DA that will file charges. So let them try to give me record is not going to happen.

    The law is what it is, and i follow the law there for i have nothing to fear except cops who think they can make up there own laws. and to think these are the people who took an oath to uphold ALL laws.........

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    BlaineG wrote:
    yes i have no problem going to jail as it will only add to my case against them.
    Respectfully, Sir, if you go with a group please discuss this with them as I'm sure most would prefer not going to jail and getting a record which would preclude any firearms ownership, at least for monthes and monthes while the case preceeds.

    Once, I called PPD when the other half of the duplex I was living in was broken into when the occupants were away for the weekend. The LEO that responded (after 3 hours, I might add) tried to make an issue out of me having a JFrame in my pocket (this was before I had a consealed carry permit)....It got ugly for a moment or two, then he backed off, I suppose because he realized he was blowing smoke. When he was wrapping up the scene, I suggested we go shoot for a Dollar a shot sometimeand he muttered a bad word


    I mutter bad words at and about you all the time.

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    First of all If they want to ARREST me for OCing then i am pritty sure there is no court on this planet or DA that will file charges. So let them try to give me record is not going to happen.

    The law is what it is, and i follow the law there for i have nothing to fear except cops who think they can make up there own laws. and to think these are the people who took an oath to uphold ALL laws.........
    Correct that is what will happen more than likely. arrested and maybe go to a pretrial, where you will plead not guilty. The DA will offer you all the deals, and you keep saying no go to court, then when it gets to court the officer will not even show up, and the judge will drop the case,that is what happen to me on my arrest charge.

    But i still got finger printed and mug shot. THAT BLOWS AND SUCKS IT REALLY PISSED ME OFF EVEN TO THIS DAY. I had to sit in the jail with those crazy a$$ people like i was a criminal. I hope this is the reason i did not get the jobtacoma will owe me BIG TIME.

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    jarhead1055 wrote:
    First of all If they want to ARREST me for OCing then i am pritty sure there is no court on this planet or DA that will file charges. So let them try to give me record is not going to happen.

    The law is what it is, and i follow the law there for i have nothing to fear except cops who think they can make up there own laws. and to think these are the people who took an oath to uphold ALL laws.........
    Correct that is what will happen more than likely. arrested and maybe go to a pretrial, where you will plead not guilty. The DA will offer you all the deals, and you keep saying no go to court, then when it gets to court the officer will not even show up, and the judge will drop the case,that is what happen to me on my arrest charge.

    But i still got finger printed and mug shot. THAT BLOWS AND SUCKS IT REALLY PISSED ME OFF EVEN TO THIS DAY. I had to sit in the jail with those crazy a$$ people like i was a criminal. I hope this is the reason i did not get the jobtacoma will owe me BIG TIME.
    You have the right to ask that prospective employer for a copy of thecriminal history.

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