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Lancaster man arrested after child finds his gun
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M&P.40
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SHOW SOME RESPONSIBILITY PLEASE!
SHOW SOME RESPONSIBILITY PLEASE!
Orygunner
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Oh, c'mon! People drop things on the playground all the time! Syrenges, crack baggies, pot pipes. What harm is a gun going to do?
Andwhat's up with the little girl BRINGING THE LOADED GUN to an adult? Aren't we teaching kids to clear the weapon first?
Seriously, the gun owner is an idiot, hopefully he will be made to understand that.No matter howor why he lost the gun (maybe he was swinging on the monkey bars?)he needed to be much more aware of where his weapon was. There's no excuse, for sure, and thankfully nobody got hurt.
You almost have to wonder if some of these idiots aren't working for the Brady Campaign?
...Orygunner...
Oh, c'mon! People drop things on the playground all the time! Syrenges, crack baggies, pot pipes. What harm is a gun going to do?
Andwhat's up with the little girl BRINGING THE LOADED GUN to an adult? Aren't we teaching kids to clear the weapon first?
Seriously, the gun owner is an idiot, hopefully he will be made to understand that.No matter howor why he lost the gun (maybe he was swinging on the monkey bars?)he needed to be much more aware of where his weapon was. There's no excuse, for sure, and thankfully nobody got hurt.
You almost have to wonder if some of these idiots aren't working for the Brady Campaign?
...Orygunner...
Bookman
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M&P.40 wrote:
Nice situational awareness. NOT!
M&P.40 wrote:
+1000
Nice situational awareness. NOT!
nofoa
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I wonder how many people have had their guns drops from holsters here. Shouldn't the same thing happen to anyone that drops the ball. It is good the child knew her eddie eagle stuff, or at least knew enough to not play with it.
I wonder how many people have had their guns drops from holsters here. Shouldn't the same thing happen to anyone that drops the ball. It is good the child knew her eddie eagle stuff, or at least knew enough to not play with it.
Doug Huffman
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"Responsibility" is a cheap shot not much different from safety as a tyrant's tool. The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense. Maybe the irresponsible gun owner should be disarmed in the name of public safety?
Who is this security guard? Then the article goes to "the sheriff's deputy" as though they are the same individual, perhaps guarding the playground? Ineffectively.
"Responsibility" is a cheap shot not much different from safety as a tyrant's tool. The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense. Maybe the irresponsible gun owner should be disarmed in the name of public safety?
SQLtables
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nofoa wrote:
Never for me. Not that it COULDN'T happen, but if it did, I'm pretty darn sure I'd notice VERY quickly, since I make it a point to be sure my gun stays secure in it's holster.
Plus I'd wonder how I lost some weight so quickly....
This guys only getting trespassing charges? I guess nothing bad happened, but I wonder how long it took him to realize he was missing a gun...
nofoa wrote:
Never for me. Not that it COULDN'T happen, but if it did, I'm pretty darn sure I'd notice VERY quickly, since I make it a point to be sure my gun stays secure in it's holster.
Plus I'd wonder how I lost some weight so quickly....
This guys only getting trespassing charges? I guess nothing bad happened, but I wonder how long it took him to realize he was missing a gun...
Bookman
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SQLtables wrote:
My point exactly. It says he came BACK and asked for his gun. That means he didn't notice when it fell out. Like I said before, "Nice situational awareness, NOT!
SQLtables wrote:
My point exactly. It says he came BACK and asked for his gun. That means he didn't notice when it fell out. Like I said before, "Nice situational awareness, NOT!
M&P.40
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Lucky for him Obama was'nt aroundor He would be under the jail house shackled to the wall. Endangering the lives of innocent children only gets you a trespassing violation.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR GUN IS?
DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILDREN ARE ?
AAAAHH! THEIR BY THE MONKEY BARS PLAYING WITH A GUN!
Lucky for him Obama was'nt aroundor He would be under the jail house shackled to the wall. Endangering the lives of innocent children only gets you a trespassing violation.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR GUN IS?
DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILDREN ARE ?
AAAAHH! THEIR BY THE MONKEY BARS PLAYING WITH A GUN!
Orygunner
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Doug Huffman wrote:
Doug, Are you talking about lawfully enforced responsibility? If so, then I agree with you. We shouldn't have laws forcing us to be responsible, only laws for punishing when we actually do something wrong.
Laws requiring we leave our guns behind, or unloaded, or in retention holsters interfere with ourrights. Laws requiring we keep them out of the reach of children or how we lock them up aren't right. They try to legislate common sense, which is only done at the expense of liberty, and not that effective, anyway.
We should all be for safety and responsibility, just not mandated by laws.
...Orygunner...
Doug Huffman wrote:
Doug, Are you talking about lawfully enforced responsibility? If so, then I agree with you. We shouldn't have laws forcing us to be responsible, only laws for punishing when we actually do something wrong.
Laws requiring we leave our guns behind, or unloaded, or in retention holsters interfere with ourrights. Laws requiring we keep them out of the reach of children or how we lock them up aren't right. They try to legislate common sense, which is only done at the expense of liberty, and not that effective, anyway.
We should all be for safety and responsibility, just not mandated by laws.
...Orygunner...
TipsyMcStagger
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big deal.
big deal.
PT111
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Doug Huffman wrote:
To answer your question this is a playground inside of a shopping mall and the security guard is thesecurity guard for the mall. When the gun was brought to him he then notified the sheriff's department who came out to investigate if it had been used in a crime or whatever.
From the article the only thing mr. Roberts was charged with was trespassing which is the result of violating the no concealed weapons signs. I suppose he got his gun back but I would not have been surprised if he did not. Evidently this was his first offense of trespassing.
Doug Huffman wrote:
To answer your question this is a playground inside of a shopping mall and the security guard is thesecurity guard for the mall. When the gun was brought to him he then notified the sheriff's department who came out to investigate if it had been used in a crime or whatever.
From the article the only thing mr. Roberts was charged with was trespassing which is the result of violating the no concealed weapons signs. I suppose he got his gun back but I would not have been surprised if he did not. Evidently this was his first offense of trespassing.
Orygunner
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Couldn't be legally charged with Trespassing here in Oregon. In order for a trespassing charge to stick, a "person in charge" has to first ask you to leave the property, I believe.
What's the trespassing law there in South Carolina where he was arrested for it?
...Orygunner...
Couldn't be legally charged with Trespassing here in Oregon. In order for a trespassing charge to stick, a "person in charge" has to first ask you to leave the property, I believe.
What's the trespassing law there in South Carolina where he was arrested for it?
...Orygunner...
PT111
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Orygunner wrote:
Orygunner wrote:
In SC the sign is considered proper notification. If you ignore the signs then you are trespassing. The signs carry the same weight as someone asking you to leave.
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nofoa wrote:
"..................avoided an accident by doing exactly what Eddie Eagle had taught them: "STOP! Don't Touch. Leave the Area. Tell an Adult."
http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/fact.asp
Yata hey
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nofoa wrote:
To the contrary, Eddie Eagle teaches kid to not touch the gun and call/get an adult.
"..................avoided an accident by doing exactly what Eddie Eagle had taught them: "STOP! Don't Touch. Leave the Area. Tell an Adult."
http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/fact.asp
Yata hey
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Leader
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I sure feel safer knowing that we have so many perfict people on this forum.
I sure feel safer knowing that we have so many perfict people on this forum.
M&P.40
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Grapeshot wrote:
Sorry sir,I was trying to get Mr. Roberts attention,He's not helpingthe situation in SC,we're trying to get OC here..
Grapeshot wrote:
Sorry sir,I was trying to get Mr. Roberts attention,He's not helpingthe situation in SC,we're trying to get OC here..
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Leader wrote:
But not to worry, I'll presume that you directed that at me so I'll respond accordingly.
Neither myself nor any other contributor to this site has ever to my knowledge claimed to be infallable or perfect. We do strive for accuracy in reporting as the press is notoriously biased. We also point out misdirection of thoughts from others - and they may only be opinions. I have personally thanked or aplogized to posters for misinterperting their remarks.
We are constantly asking for cites when data/information is referred to, not because we wish to punish someone but because such information is worth less (it maybe worthless) without the source.
Never had anybody suggest before that striving for excellence/accurancy was a negative attribute. So be it, I'll still take the other road.
Yata hey
Leader wrote:
Gotta love sarcasim without reference - just indiscriminately cut everybody on the forum.
But not to worry, I'll presume that you directed that at me so I'll respond accordingly.
Neither myself nor any other contributor to this site has ever to my knowledge claimed to be infallable or perfect. We do strive for accuracy in reporting as the press is notoriously biased. We also point out misdirection of thoughts from others - and they may only be opinions. I have personally thanked or aplogized to posters for misinterperting their remarks.
We are constantly asking for cites when data/information is referred to, not because we wish to punish someone but because such information is worth less (it maybe worthless) without the source.
Never had anybody suggest before that striving for excellence/accurancy was a negative attribute. So be it, I'll still take the other road.
Yata hey
AnaxImperator
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The little girl did verygood in notifying an adult. But while not a horribly bad mistake, her parents omitted something that I, along with many of my friends, were taught from a very early age.... which is to never touch a firearm without thesupervision & explicit permission of an adult; and if we ever found an unattended gun to notify an adult immediately without touching it.
The situation could've easily went the other way, as was what happened with the 5yr-old in Nola just a few days ago.... who died after he found a loaded Taurus 9mm in a closet as his family was moving.
The little girl did verygood in notifying an adult. But while not a horribly bad mistake, her parents omitted something that I, along with many of my friends, were taught from a very early age.... which is to never touch a firearm without thesupervision & explicit permission of an adult; and if we ever found an unattended gun to notify an adult immediately without touching it.
The situation could've easily went the other way, as was what happened with the 5yr-old in Nola just a few days ago.... who died after he found a loaded Taurus 9mm in a closet as his family was moving.