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    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....;in_page_id=34

    YouTube bans knife and gun videos
    Thursday, September 18, 2008

    YouTube has moved to stem growing concern that its website glamourises violence by banning videos featuring weapons.

    The Google-owned video-sharing site has decided to introduce the ban for the UK only amid widespread unease about the increase in knife crime in the country.
    It says that any video which is clearly "showing weapons with the aim of intimidation" will be taken down from the site.

    Not all such videos will be removed immediately, however, as the ban will not be retrospective and any offending footage already on the site will need to be reported again.

    "We recognise that there has been particular concern over videos in the UK that involve showing weapons with the aim of intimidation, and this is one of the areas we are addressing," a YouTube spokesperson said.

    The move has been welcomed by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith as a "real step forward" and she encouraged other sites to take similar action.

    "I would like to see other internet service providers follow suit to reinforce our message that violence will not be tolerated either on the internet or in the real world," she said.

    Today's announcement follows a cross-party report by MPs this summer which warned that the internet had a "dark side" from which users need to be protected against.

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    More censorship - shall we ban books too? Oh I forgot, they have already rewritten the history books.

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    How about a link to non-uk video.
    I've never seen an intimidating gun/knife video.
    Just people shooting targets and other plinker objects.

    Guess that knife with the revolve in handle would need extra special banning!


    Or did UK youtube have the bobby who left the gun in restroom video? Gasp that
    was scarry!!!

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    Today's announcement follows a cross-party report by MPs this summer which warned that the internet had a "dark side" from which users need to be protected against.
    Yep, just close your eyes and pretend it's not there, maybe it will just go away.

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    I really hope they don't bring this ban across the pond, there is some really great firearm content on YouTube.

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    ScottyT wrote:
    I really hope they don't bring this ban across the pond, there is some really great firearm content on YouTube.
    Ssssssssh.

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    Ya know, I thought each of us had the ability to censor material that we don't want to view. Like the on/off switch or channel select on the radio/TV, the mouse clicker on our computer. Are we to believe that the Brits don't know how to use these items?

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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    Ya know, I thought each of us had the ability to censor material that we don't want to view. Like the on/off switch or channel select on the radio/TV, the mouse clicker on our computer. Are we to believe that the Brits don't know how to use these items?
    It's being done for their own good. Think of the children. It's not brainwashing; it's limiting their education to approved material. It's a controlled feeding of pap!

    It's happening here in the good old USA too. History books limit or delete reference to the Holocaust, zero tolerence has gone so far that toodlers with be punished for drawing stick figures shooting. Just clean non-frightening, edited/white washed dogma is permitted.

    "If we do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it."

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    Nanny statism at its worst or perhaps it is to cover up out of control criminal gangs.
    I guess the following story is being used to justify the action.

    http://tinyurl.com/4n4mry
    Alex Watts, Sky News Online
    Police are hunting a gang who filmed themselves terrifying motorists with an AK47 rifle.




    The yobs - who recorded the disturbing footage on mobile phone and posted it on YouTube - are seen laughing as one screams: "I kill you all!"
    The clip, posted by someone with the user name fittysmiffy, takes place in a country road lined with luxury houses.
    The 55-second video - said to have been taken in High Wycombe, Bucks - was spotted after YouTube vowed to ban videos featuring weapons.
    The Google-owned site introduced the ban for the UK only amid widespread unease about gang violence on Britain's streets.
    It said any video clearly "showing weapons with the aim of intimidation" will be taken down, and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith hailed the move as a "real step forward".
    However, YouTube has pointed out that the ban is not retrospective, and videos like this one posted prior to the change will only be removed if reported now.

    Video Posted On YouTube The footage - which is being investigated by detectives at High Wycombe police station - begins with a gangly youth walking down a garden path.
    He has a scarf pulled over his face and is brandishing what appears to be a folding butt AK47 rifle.
    His friends egg him on as he walks out into the road and points the weapon at an oncoming car.
    Another gang member shouts out: "I kill you all - I kill you now!" as the terrified driver spots the rifle.
    The youth points the gun at another car, which screeches to a halt. The gang then run from the scene, laughing.
    Examining the footage, arms expert Justin Bosanquet said: "The weapon appears to be a folding butt AK-47 or AKM variant.
    "The 7.62mm x 39mm round it fires would pass easily through any car door or window, killing the occupant.
    "The folding butt version was the most popular with paramilitary groups like the IRA because it is most concealable."


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    ^^Probably airsoft... :P

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    MetalChris wrote:
    ^^Probably airsoft... :P
    Doesn't make any difference.

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    longwatch wrote:
    His friends egg him on as he walks out into the road
    ROFL!!!

    What a bunch of royal tards. The only thing more disturbing than these tards scaring the hell out of motorists, is that the British police state is most likely to declare their status under the soon to be universal term for common crimes, "terrorists", and extinguish due process. Off to Guantanamo Bay for you.

    Frankly, I didn't know they had gangs.

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    Isn't google the same company that rolled over for the censors in China?

    If it happens here, there will suddenly be an opening for youtube's competitors. I love the free market (while it lasts, Paulson and Bernanke).

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    If someone pointed an AK at mewhile I was driving towards him, he'd become instant "ROAD PIZZA" if I could run him over.

    I had this happen twice to me, once during the war in Croatia and once during the problems in Macedonia. Both times, I accelerated and swerved into them when I saw the threat and both times just narrowly missed the SOB's.

    I was never shot at and when the BG's realized my car was badder than their pistol and AK, all they could do was to dive into the ditch to avoid getting obliterated by my Pajero. And for the record, yes, I was trying to kill the SOB's!
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    ODA 226 wrote:
    If someone pointed an AK at mewhile I was driving towards him, he'd become instant "ROAD PIZZA" if I could run him over.

    I had this happen twice to me, once during the war in Croatia and once during the problems in Macedonia. Both times, I accelerated and swerved into them when I saw the threat and both times just narrowly missed the SOB's.

    I was never shot at and when the BG's realized my car was badder than their pistol and AK, all they could do was to dive into the ditch to avoid getting obliterated by my Pajero. And for the record, yes, I was trying to kill the SOB's!
    Sight alignment and trigger control will improve your score.

    No excuses, no alibis - all shots are "for the record."

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    longwatch wrote:
    Today's announcement follows a cross-party report by MPs this summer which warned that the internet had a "dark side" from which users need to be protected against.
    That right there frightens me to no end.

    Knife violence is up, eh? What next, are they going to ban steak knives now? When criminals start using hammers to kill people, are they going to shut down hardware stores to the public?

    It is simply irrational fear. Many Europeans so much want to be safe that they will vote themselves right into oblivion. They'll even vote for people who will "protect" them against outside influences. That reminds me of something, yet I can't quite put my finger on it... :quirky

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    it is so sad..it truely is...sigh but hey u know if there are no guns or other scary stuff then well we all live in peace for ever...wasnt that tried once or twice...whoa gotta stop almost had to call a godwin on myself...but for real...the punks need to be caught and punished..maybe even broadcast it on youtube...but i for one hardly find people launching milkjugs into orbit with high powered tools and toys offending...down right entertaining maybe...offensive..never

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    I hope this doesn't spill over to the U.S. I have a video of me shooting some milk jugs with my Remmy 700 sniper rifle and I am going to upload it soon. Technically it isn't in "an intimidatingmanner" so maybe I canslip by.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    MetalChris wrote:
    ^^Probably airsoft...* :P
    Doesn't make any difference.

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    It does it the UK. With gun prohibtion, guns are only real to criminals. To these kids, guns are nothing more than toys.

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    zperrego91 wrote:
    I hope this doesn't spill over to the U.S. I have a video of me shooting some milk jugs with my Remmy 700 sniper rifle and I am going to upload it soon. Technically it isn't in "an intimidatingmanner" so maybe I canslip by.
    If you keep calling it a "sniper rifle", that's intimidating to some folks, enough to call for bans.

    Q: What's the difference between a sniper rifle and a hunting rifle?
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    zperrego91 wrote:
    I hope this doesn't spill over to the U.S. I have a video of me shooting some milk jugs with my Remmy 700 sniper rifle and I am going to upload it soon. Technically it isn't in "an intimidatingmanner" so maybe I canslip by.
    If you keep calling it a "sniper rifle", that's intimidating to some folks, enough to call for bans.

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    Banning such content for the UK only is really nonsensical - either this footage is intrinsically evil or it isn't. What's special about the UK that they are apparently more affected by seeing weapons that other people would be? Will they ban war documentaries next? Can't wait till they prohibit showings of Henry V. Nevermind that Lawrence Olivier got a specific commission to make a film of it during WWII to whip up patriotic sentiment. It certainly does glorify martial virtues. Let them ban it and hold their manhood cheap.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    More censorship - shall we ban books too? Oh I forgot, they have already rewritten the history books.

    Yata hey
    ban books? And here I thought we were going to have a nationwide book burning similar to the way the Nazis and the Bolsheviks did it.....

    we must all be loyal party members...


    censorship is great, should make us all proud to be Americans to know that what we read or have access to will be limited now...

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    They really are looking at this wrong. That video can be used as evidence AGAINST the retards in court. You know, after the cops do their jobs and catch the bad guys, or did no one with a cell phone call this in?



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    KBCraig wrote:
    zperrego91 wrote:
    I hope this doesn't spill over to the U.S. I have a video of me shooting some milk jugs with my Remmy 700 sniper rifle and I am going to upload it soon. Technically it isn't in "an intimidatingmanner" so maybe I canslip by.
    If you keep calling it a "sniper rifle", that's intimidating to some folks, enough to call for bans.

    Q: What's the difference between a sniper rifle and a hunting rifle?
    A: P.R.
    And a couple hundred bucks.
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