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    I don't know if this has been posted before, but it is well written and makes the argument for open carry quite eloquently!

    Why I Carry Openly




    Someone once said that Texas was one of the most gun-friendly states? Hardly! TX has some of the most restrictive laws around. Not as bad as CT, MA and quite a few others but certainly way worse than NM, AZ, CO, UT. WY, MT, NV, IN and others.

    There is not a shred of evidence or a case in the U.S. that anyone has ever been able to come up with that any credence whatsoever to the ASSumption that open-carry makes you a target. Out here in the west, there are thousands of us that carry openly everyday and I'm one of them. Why do I carry openly? Here's why...


    There are a select few states that allow it's citizens to carry their weapons out in the open without asking permission from their government but there is a FEWER select few citizens that choose to exercise that right for fear of hurting someone's feelings.

    There are quite a few establishments nowadays that choose to post signs that prohibit the carry of firearms, openly or concealed, within their walls. This is another of the many things that gives me deep and lasting indigestion. If you don't want to be robbed or have a disgruntled employee take out his frustration on your patrons, why do you create such a "hazard-free environment" for those that might perpetrate such a crime? Do you seriously think that a guy intent on robbing your store, or worse, is going to walk up to your door, see your "No Guns" sign and say, "Darn!, I sooooooo wanted to rob this place but the sign says I can't bring my gun in so I guess I'll just have to go somewhere else."? No, by posting that sign, you have pretty much assured the criminal that there is little, if any, chance that he will be confronted. When trained, credible, responsible citizens carry their weapons in your store and give you their business, you should be grateful that, at least for the time that they are present, your business is protected. At least from violent crime. Most of us will not shoot someone for stealing money as it is replaceable and probably insured. However, I have never met a legitimate gun-toter that would not intervene if someone were to threaten innocents or start shooting.

    I think that many post those signs because of fear of the image that some of the patrons might get, not for liability reasons.

    It is my opinion that if those who do carry regularly WOULD carry openly more often, it would help to de-sensitize those whom some people are afraid they are going to offend. Well, it offends ME when someone is offended by my carrying (which is RARELY an issue here in NM). I have my rights just like they have theirs. They have the right to get up and go eat somewhere else if they happen to come into a restaurant where I am eating. They have the right to run home screaming if they see me walking down the street and I am armed. I, on the other hand, have the right to do anything that they can do and their being there doesn't affect me one way or the other. The reason that gun rights are in the shape that they are in is because we gunowners continuously pander to "them" and try to compromise to a point that is OK with "them". We walk around and hide what we do or give certain rights away to retain others. That's not freedom to me.

    I don't "flaunt" it as some have said. I think that if one is going to carry openly that they should dress neatly and wear your gear professionally and conservatively. I don't think that it's necessarily appropriate to wear a 7.5" Super Blackhawk downtown in cheap nylon Wal-Mart holster. Yes, occasionally when I come in from hunting or something and I'm carrying a .44, I may stop to get a Coke or gas or something but I'm not gonna take my gun off just because someone else may not approve of it but what I wear daily is a Glock 23 in a Blade Tech belt holster with my shirt tail tucked in. I dress neatly and there is nothing threatening about my appearance (unless you feel threatened by someone that 6"4", 250 pounds and wearing a gun ). Once in a while, I get a question or two but I have yet to experience the fear and panic that some claim is going to happen.

    Occasionally, someone tells me how much that they value the 2nd amendment. Well, so do I...as it was written. Not as they would have me to accept it. Having said all that, I do believe that there are a very few places where it may not be appropriate to wear openly like church or some business meetings or picking the kids up at the Boys and Girls Club. In those few places, I do carry but it is concealed. If it's an impromptu occasion, I simply untuck my shirt and let it cover the gun. If it's planned, like church, I wear a Glock 27 in a Blade Tech IWB and a jacket or vest.

    I don't "flaunt" it, make a big deal out of it or handle it in any manner when in public and I have NEVER had any problem.

    I WILL NOT CRAWL AROUND AND EXERCISE MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS ONLY WHEN IT IS ACCEPTABLE WITH SOMEONE ELSE OR WHERE THEY CANNOT SEE!

    There are those who will not stand up for a passing flag unless a few people around them do. Well I am the one around them that is usually first to stand. I could care less what everyone around me does. I have a man to face every day in the mirror and someone else to face when I leave this world. I plan to be able to walk uprightly before Him and say that I have done the best I could to uphold and exercise the rights and freedoms that I was blessed with at my birth.

    "All those in favor of losing their rights, please do nothing!"

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    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764.

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    :celebrateNever could have written it better myself.

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    I wander in/out of New Mexico from time to time. I OC all the time... 'Gota dirty look from some LEO in Las Cruces while I was gettin' gas... 'Dunno if it was the gun or the knife... or maybe he just didn't like my moustache. I carry the knife when I'm transiting desert areas for some distance. Do I care what somebody else thinks?

    Hell NO!

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    I see no good reason to Willingly temp the bad guy by C.C or choosing not to arm oneself at all where it's perfectly legal to do so, either way the criminal only knows what he sees or in this case(not see) getting hurt or Killed is not in his plan,so O.C is the best wayof pointing the bad guy in another direction.

    O.C.A...open carry always.

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    Who the hell stands up for a flag?

    Nationalism is the love of government, not country.

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    Great article, ThunderRanch! It's not clear, however, if you wrote it, or just posted it to share?

    I do have a question:

    The article suggests OCing in church and picking up the kiddies from the boys & girls club as places it may not be appropriate. Do you agree? Why or why not?



    marshaul wrote:
    Who the hell stands up for a flag?

    Nationalism is the love of government, not country.
    I disagree. I love my country (and it's flag) but believe the government has lost sight of what this country is supposed to be, and the liberty our flag stands for. Showing respect for the flag is not conditional onlovefor government.

    ...Orygunner...

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    Orygunner wrote:
    I disagree. I love my country (and it's flag) but believe the government has lost sight of what this country is supposed to be, and the liberty our flag stands for. Showing respect for the flag is not conditional onlovefor government.

    ...Orygunner...
    +1

    Correct me if I am wrong ,but I thought Gabe Suarez is against open carry?

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    It wwas written by Cope Reynolds who is a trainer at the Suarez academy. I don't personllay know Gabe Suarez's stance on OC.

    I don't agree with the part about not carrying at the boys and girls club, or in Church for that matter. At those times, the situation would most likely dictate whether I would OC or CC depending on my surroundings.
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764.

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    I will stand for our flag..and smack my kids in the head if they dont! I also have a son and a son-in-law serving our country.

    JB..."Carry On!"

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    This thread isn't about flags, but since it was brought up...

    Title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1

    § 9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag

    During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, those present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

    http://www.legion.org/national/americanflag/flagcode

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    To paraphrase -

    May those that do not stand firmly behind our flag be caused to stand in front of it when the SHTF.

    Standing behind our flag includes supporting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights - as it was written.

    I express this daily by OCing for all to see and hopefully be better educated.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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